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If you're not using it why do you care if it's usable?
by chrisseaton 5y ago
If you're not using it why do you care if it's usable?
- fsflover 5y agoNot using the subscription does not mean not using the device.
- chrisseaton 5y agoIf you read everyone else's comments, you can use it without the cloud service.
- ekianjo 5y agofor now. Ever heard of OTA updates?
- fsflover 5y agoBut can I be sure that an update can't change that?
- chrisseaton 5y agoDon't install updates then! I don't understand this line of logic - you don't want ongoing service but you're using the ongoing service to get updates?
- fsflover 5y agoDo you suggest to also avoid security updates? Does not sound like a good advice. For this reason, I prefer devices running exclusively free software. I can be sure that I will always own them and that security updates will never end, if the device is still used by the community. Debian clearly separates security and non-security-related updates. I wish more projects did that.
- chrisseaton 5y agoI thought you didn't want ongoing service? You want them to keep working on updates for your device but you don't want to keep paying them? > I can be sure that I will always own them and that security updates will never end, if the device is still used by the community. How do you ensure that someone else will write a security patch for you?
- fsflover 5y ago> You want them to keep working on updates for your device but you don't want to keep paying them? No, I want to able to have updates independently on the vendor who may want to stop updating the device. This is exactly why free software was created. Experience shows that just this ability is enough to have lifetime updates from the community for any device. Or, alternatively, one can pay to anyone for the updates, if necessary. My 12+-year-old laptop runs latest version of Debian and I do not expect to stop receiving security updates any time soon.
- lr1970 5y ago> Don't install updates then! I don't understand this line of logic - you don't want ongoing service but you're using the ongoing service to get updates? For example, one might want to get security updates.
- chrisseaton 5y ago> one might want to get security updates So you do want an ongoing service, you just don't want to pay for it?
- fsflover 5y agoWe do not want anti-features preventing us from using our device as we see fit (e.g., updating on our own).
- chrisseaton 5y agoI don't think this subscription service is the thing that prevents you from doing that?
- ekianjo 5y ago