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But I don't get back the time I spent acquiring the property. I can't replace the two weeks of work it would take to buy a new one. And what if it gets stolen a

But I don't get back the time I spent acquiring the property. I can't replace the two weeks of work it would take to buy a new one. And what if it gets stolen again?

tikhonj 5y ago
It sounds like you're saying that anybody who wastes my time deserves death? Pretty sure busybody neighbors would be far ahead of thieves in that line...
Nursie 5y ago
But you can get the property back or be financially made whole in a variety of ways. This really is a bizarre line of reasoning.
- 0x0nyandesu 5y ago
  I actually think your reasoning is bizarre. Not all life is equal.
  - Nursie 5y ago
    > Not all life is equal. That's not relevant to the argument at hand, nor is it a claim I have made.
    - 0x0nyandesu 5y ago
      You keep talking about how you can't take back killing. The thing is I don't want to take it back. The kind of person that would steal things that people rely on to survive has ceded their equal protection under the law.
      - Nursie 5y ago
        > You keep talking about how you can't take back killing. Yes, which is one of the things that makes killing different from property theft. > The thing is I don't want to take it back. That's not relevant to the discussion here, which was one in which posters were claiming that their property represents part of their life, time they cannot get back, and thus taking it is somehow equivalent to taking a life. My point was that this is a false equivalence. You do not appear to be making such an equivalence argument, so it's hardly a surprise that my counterpoint doesn't apply to whatever your reasoning is. It's like jumping into an argument about which shade of green is better and saying "My favourite colour is red". Uh, good for you I guess.
pasquinelli 5y ago
you can't replace any time, ever, under any circumstances. it's a one way trip.
SturgeonsLaw 5y ago
Even if we assume that there is some kind of property-value-to-life exchange rate (that's not a given), by killing someone you are taking, potentially, decades of their life in exchange for the loss of your two weeks. If you kill someone who has 30 years of their life remaining to avenge your lost two weeks, you are extracting a 780-fold punishment on them. Unless a geriatric steals your Ferrari, the numbers will be similarly lopsided in other examples.

But I don't get back the time I spent acquiring the property. I can't replace the two weeks of work it would take to buy a new one. And what if it gets stolen again?

tikhonj 5y ago

It sounds like you're saying that anybody who wastes my time deserves death? Pretty sure busybody neighbors would be far ahead of thieves in that line...

Nursie 5y ago

But you can get the property back or be financially made whole in a variety of ways. This really is a bizarre line of reasoning.

0x0nyandesu 5y ago
I actually think your reasoning is bizarre. Not all life is equal.
- Nursie 5y ago
  > Not all life is equal. That's not relevant to the argument at hand, nor is it a claim I have made.
  - 0x0nyandesu 5y ago
    You keep talking about how you can't take back killing. The thing is I don't want to take it back. The kind of person that would steal things that people rely on to survive has ceded their equal protection under the law.
    - Nursie 5y ago
      > You keep talking about how you can't take back killing. Yes, which is one of the things that makes killing different from property theft. > The thing is I don't want to take it back. That's not relevant to the discussion here, which was one in which posters were claiming that their property represents part of their life, time they cannot get back, and thus taking it is somehow equivalent to taking a life. My point was that this is a false equivalence. You do not appear to be making such an equivalence argument, so it's hardly a surprise that my counterpoint doesn't apply to whatever your reasoning is. It's like jumping into an argument about which shade of green is better and saying "My favourite colour is red". Uh, good for you I guess.

pasquinelli 5y ago

you can't replace any time, ever, under any circumstances. it's a one way trip.

SturgeonsLaw 5y ago

Even if we assume that there is some kind of property-value-to-life exchange rate (that's not a given), by killing someone you are taking, potentially, decades of their life in exchange for the loss of your two weeks. If you kill someone who has 30 years of their life remaining to avenge your lost two weeks, you are extracting a 780-fold punishment on them. Unless a geriatric steals your Ferrari, the numbers will be similarly lopsided in other examples.