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I catch lobsters and crabs as a hobby, and this is something I started at a young age (5, small crabs). I killed and cooked countless of those creatures. Ther
by stephc_int13 5y ago
I catch lobsters and crabs as a hobby, and this is something I started at a young age (5, small crabs).
I killed and cooked countless of those creatures.
There is absolutely no doubt that they experience pain and fear, like all animals and probably also many plants.
From my experience, I don't think they suffer that much when boiled alive, they die in less than two seconds, it is very quick because of their low volume and good thermal conductivity.
I think they suffer much more during transport.
Alas, like many seafood they deteriorate extremely quickly when dead.
A lobster that has been dead for even one hour has a very different and unpleasant taste.
- crehn 5y ago> they experience pain and fear, like [...] probably also many plants Out of curiosity, do you have any data to share that supports your perspective?
- musingsole 5y agoYeah, their observations of their behavior over a history of catching and eating them. Oh, you mean tabular, quantitative data? Come off it.
- nimih 5y agoAdmittedly, it would be cool if the OP had net_utils_by_specie_empirical_timeseries.xls just sitting around on their hard drive.
- crehn 5y ago> their observations of their behavior over a history of catching and eating them Perhaps "data" is too analytical; I'm interested in how plants convey pain and fear.
- musingsole 5y agoIt's an open question whether prescribing emotions to plant-life is appropriate, but it is a common model used to explain plant behavior. You could argue botanists are anthropomorphizing their subjects...or you could fixate on the overlap of plant and animal behaviors in response to similar conditions. But for some science showing botanists using emotional language for plants in action, here ya go: https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/scaring-soybeans-defensive-mode-yields-better-plants-generation-later/ https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/scaring-soybeans-def...