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Except that's how normal scrap often works. We save old cats at the shop and drop them off every six or twelve months to get that cash. Got a big pile of them n

Except that's how normal scrap often works. We save old cats at the shop and drop them off every six or twelve months to get that cash. Got a big pile of them now.

detaro 5y ago
"we currently do X, that has downsides, we could do Y instead" "but we currently do X!" That's... a weird line of argument?
- nawgz 5y ago
  I don't think it's weird to point out with first-hand experience that the institutions which the regulations are being proposed for currently carry operational inertia that the regulations will need to work around. Can you explain why that is weird? It was quite a good contribution from my perspective
  - detaro 5y ago
    It seems kind of obvious that any regulation that requires changing workflows would ... cause workflows to change. And it in no way suggests why the changes would be a problem, or would be useless, which is what one would usually expect as reaction.
    - nawgz 5y ago
      > seems kind of obvious that any regulation that requires changing workflows would How was it obvious it would change workflows before his comment? I didn't see discussion of the relative frequency of this type of action, and instead I saw much suggestion that "shady smelters" were necessarily involved as scrupulous shops wouldn't do this. The commenter's added perspective helped inform mine > it in no way suggests why the changes would be a problem, or would be useless You have no sense of why suddenly complicating the lives of blue collar workers with some regulations punishing a separate action would be met with resistance? I am not sure why this person would have to explicitly write this all out for you, it was obvious to me in first reading. I suggest you interpret other's comments with a bit more charity, you are the one who is not adding to this conversation much more than the one you criticize for such because you are somehow unable to consume context or subtext.
- Teever 5y ago
  I'm highly skeptical of any solution that involves nothing but more paperwork. What if car manufacturers just changed their designs so that catalytic converters weren't so easy to steal that a drug addled person could do it en masse with a battery powered tool? Like maybe we can just nip this problem at the source so that everyone else doesn't have to change how they do business.
contravariant 5y ago
>We save old cats at the shop... You save what?

Except that's how normal scrap often works. We save old cats at the shop and drop them off every six or twelve months to get that cash. Got a big pile of them now.

detaro 5y ago

"we currently do X, that has downsides, we could do Y instead" "but we currently do X!" That's... a weird line of argument?

nawgz 5y ago
I don't think it's weird to point out with first-hand experience that the institutions which the regulations are being proposed for currently carry operational inertia that the regulations will need to work around. Can you explain why that is weird? It was quite a good contribution from my perspective
- detaro 5y ago
  It seems kind of obvious that any regulation that requires changing workflows would ... cause workflows to change. And it in no way suggests why the changes would be a problem, or would be useless, which is what one would usually expect as reaction.
  - nawgz 5y ago
    > seems kind of obvious that any regulation that requires changing workflows would How was it obvious it would change workflows before his comment? I didn't see discussion of the relative frequency of this type of action, and instead I saw much suggestion that "shady smelters" were necessarily involved as scrupulous shops wouldn't do this. The commenter's added perspective helped inform mine > it in no way suggests why the changes would be a problem, or would be useless You have no sense of why suddenly complicating the lives of blue collar workers with some regulations punishing a separate action would be met with resistance? I am not sure why this person would have to explicitly write this all out for you, it was obvious to me in first reading. I suggest you interpret other's comments with a bit more charity, you are the one who is not adding to this conversation much more than the one you criticize for such because you are somehow unable to consume context or subtext.
Teever 5y ago
I'm highly skeptical of any solution that involves nothing but more paperwork. What if car manufacturers just changed their designs so that catalytic converters weren't so easy to steal that a drug addled person could do it en masse with a battery powered tool? Like maybe we can just nip this problem at the source so that everyone else doesn't have to change how they do business.

contravariant 5y ago

>We save old cats at the shop... You save what?