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The one where I can defend myself obviously

arcticbull 5y ago
One where you need to kill people for stealing car parts my dude, holy moly, that’s not just terrifying it’s embarrassing.
- 0x0nyandesu 5y ago
  Paying $10k to fix my car right now would be literally taking food off the table for my kids and making them have to do with less over the next year during their prime development. Please reconsider what is actually embarrassing and to whom.
  - arcticbull 5y ago
    I recommend a comprehensive car insurance policy in lieu of execution, and also rebuilding the state.
  - imarid 5y ago
    It just baffles me that in mostly christian country like US any kind of money is more important than human life.
  - ambicapter 5y ago
    If you bought a car where it costs you $10k to replace a catalytic converter, you have no business having anything to do with deciding anything in the legal system, period.
    - 0x0nyandesu 5y ago
      https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/catalytic-converter-theft-replacement-cost-auto-repair/2624819/ https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/catalytic-converter... Read more. Comment less.
  - tessierashpool 5y ago
    you can get a catalytic converter for a Porsche 911 on eBay for $1K. what are you driving that you need $10K to replace the cat? it wouldn't make a difference, because arguing that you can commit murder in response to theft is obviously completely ridiculous, and flies in the face of all relevant legal principles and precedents going back at least to the root of our legal system, the Magna Carta of 1215. but I am nonetheless curious what on earth you are driving where the catalytic converter costs ten thousand dollars.
    - 0x0nyandesu 5y ago
      It doesn't matter. You aren't allowed to install after market converters on vehicles in california. Currently it takes 1-2 months to get one in the first place and then two weeks for installation. During that time the insurance company is paying for your rental and you are out a deductable. After 30 days you pay 1k per month for a rental at the insurance rate. During all this you are out time and money driving back and forth dealing with the problem. In all after work opportunity lost you are easily out 5-10k while the criminal barely nets a few hundred bucks. If it's a new Honda your car is depreciating in value while you can't even use it. There's a reason why we give people the right to defend their life and property with violence. It keeps people civil. Hell we let people get away with mowing down jaywalkers in LA. Why is it any different for a thief? https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/catalytic-converter-theft-replacement-cost-auto-repair/2624819/ https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/catalytic-converter... By the way a new converter for a Honda is 3k right now. We didn't even discuss repairs and missed work from having to deal with it. Sounds easy with a tech income. Not so much when you're working a minimum wage gig.
- veeti 5y ago
  It wasn't about stealing car parts, it was about getting the shit beat out of you in broad daylight. > Denny suffered a fractured skull and impairment of his speech and ability to walk, for which he underwent years of rehabilitative therapy. Would you rather just take your chances?

One where you need to kill people for stealing car parts my dude, holy moly, that’s not just terrifying it’s embarrassing.

0x0nyandesu 5y ago
Paying $10k to fix my car right now would be literally taking food off the table for my kids and making them have to do with less over the next year during their prime development. Please reconsider what is actually embarrassing and to whom.
- arcticbull 5y ago
  I recommend a comprehensive car insurance policy in lieu of execution, and also rebuilding the state.
- imarid 5y ago
  It just baffles me that in mostly christian country like US any kind of money is more important than human life.
- ambicapter 5y ago
  If you bought a car where it costs you $10k to replace a catalytic converter, you have no business having anything to do with deciding anything in the legal system, period.
  - 0x0nyandesu 5y ago
    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/catalytic-converter-theft-replacement-cost-auto-repair/2624819/ https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/catalytic-converter... Read more. Comment less.
- tessierashpool 5y ago
  you can get a catalytic converter for a Porsche 911 on eBay for $1K. what are you driving that you need $10K to replace the cat? it wouldn't make a difference, because arguing that you can commit murder in response to theft is obviously completely ridiculous, and flies in the face of all relevant legal principles and precedents going back at least to the root of our legal system, the Magna Carta of 1215. but I am nonetheless curious what on earth you are driving where the catalytic converter costs ten thousand dollars.
  - 0x0nyandesu 5y ago
    It doesn't matter. You aren't allowed to install after market converters on vehicles in california. Currently it takes 1-2 months to get one in the first place and then two weeks for installation. During that time the insurance company is paying for your rental and you are out a deductable. After 30 days you pay 1k per month for a rental at the insurance rate. During all this you are out time and money driving back and forth dealing with the problem. In all after work opportunity lost you are easily out 5-10k while the criminal barely nets a few hundred bucks. If it's a new Honda your car is depreciating in value while you can't even use it. There's a reason why we give people the right to defend their life and property with violence. It keeps people civil. Hell we let people get away with mowing down jaywalkers in LA. Why is it any different for a thief? https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/catalytic-converter-theft-replacement-cost-auto-repair/2624819/ https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/catalytic-converter... By the way a new converter for a Honda is 3k right now. We didn't even discuss repairs and missed work from having to deal with it. Sounds easy with a tech income. Not so much when you're working a minimum wage gig.
veeti 5y ago
It wasn't about stealing car parts, it was about getting the shit beat out of you in broad daylight. > Denny suffered a fractured skull and impairment of his speech and ability to walk, for which he underwent years of rehabilitative therapy. Would you rather just take your chances?