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Rapidly shifting ethics, scientism, totalitarian discourse, and stripping people's rights - all over a background of harming people while claiming to help them

Rapidly shifting ethics, scientism, totalitarian discourse, and stripping people's rights - all over a background of harming people while claiming to help them - is not what I consider "inconvenience". I consider it stupid and dangerous, as does any free society. Do you know the cost/benefit analysis results of the COVID interventions? They're not good, and they're going to get a lot worse in the coming years, not just in the west but particularly in poorer countries that have to deal with the economic fallout. They're estimating 20 million people are now starving to death because of the lockdowns (https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/six-fold-increase-people-suffering-famine-conditions-pandemic-began https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/six-fold-increase-pe..., https://unglobalcompact.org/take-action/20th-anniversary-campaign/covid-related%20hunger-could-kill-more-people-than-the-virus https://unglobalcompact.org/take-action/20th-anniversary-cam..., https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/world/africa/coronavirus-hunger-crisis.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/world/africa/coronavirus-..., https://www.france24.com/en/20200728-coronavirus-linked-hunger-kills-10-000-children-per-month-says-un https://www.france24.com/en/20200728-coronavirus-linked-hung..., https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/09/25/pandemic-pushes-hundreds-millions-people-toward-starvation-poverty/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/09/25/pandemic-pus..., https://devpolicy.org/recipe-for-disaster-covid-19-and-world-hunger-20210922/ https://devpolicy.org/recipe-for-disaster-covid-19-and-world..., https://ipdefenseforum.com/2021/03/u-n-official-warns-covid-19-lockdown-causing-starvation-poverty-in-north-korea/ https://ipdefenseforum.com/2021/03/u-n-official-warns-covid-...) As for the vaccines you think should be mandated: https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/fda-produces-the-first-91-pages-of https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/fda-produces-the-first-91-p... and thousands of people losing their jobs because they refuse (https://www.npr.org/2021/10/24/1047947268/covid-vaccine-workers-quitting-getting-fired-mandates https://www.npr.org/2021/10/24/1047947268/covid-vaccine-work...). This is amazing progress, truly: you are helping the community. Good fucking work, please tell us what else we should be doing - I think we might be able to save some lives by doing the opposite.

ttyprintk 5y ago
Your links talk about conflict as the source of food shortages, having health clinics close that served as nutritional outposts. More recently, studies blame high retail costs and decreased wages (i.e. inflation) because the commodity costs of staples like rice have not increased. If, God forbid, you found yourself hospitalized for Coronavirus and were asked to give up your bed for someone else, would you?
- prohobo 5y ago
  Nice side-step, you're right the interventions have nothing to do with it (even though all of the articles, besides the first, explicitly state that it's the core cause). Where do you think the inflation is coming from? I wouldn't be hospitalized by COVID; I've already had it as I've already said. If I were in danger of being hospitalized from it I might just take the vaccine. As for your question, I dunno, would you?
- kcplate 5y ago
  > If, God forbid, you found yourself hospitalized for Coronavirus and were asked to give up your bed for someone else, would you? You are arguing a hypothetical that would not happen (at least in the US). If you NEED to be hospitalized for Covid and ARE…no one is tossing you out of the bed or even asking you to give up your bed once you are there.
- blindmute 5y ago
  Logically, it should be the vaccinated who give up their beds for the unvaccinated in such a situation. The vaccinated took Science's best preventive medicine and still are almost dying, so they're more likely to be a strain on the healthcare system in general over their lives --- they're sickly people. Better to try to save the person who has at least not proven themselves to have poor genetic immunity.

ttyprintk 5y ago

Your links talk about conflict as the source of food shortages, having health clinics close that served as nutritional outposts. More recently, studies blame high retail costs and decreased wages (i.e. inflation) because the commodity costs of staples like rice have not increased. If, God forbid, you found yourself hospitalized for Coronavirus and were asked to give up your bed for someone else, would you?

prohobo 5y ago
Nice side-step, you're right the interventions have nothing to do with it (even though all of the articles, besides the first, explicitly state that it's the core cause). Where do you think the inflation is coming from? I wouldn't be hospitalized by COVID; I've already had it as I've already said. If I were in danger of being hospitalized from it I might just take the vaccine. As for your question, I dunno, would you?
kcplate 5y ago
> If, God forbid, you found yourself hospitalized for Coronavirus and were asked to give up your bed for someone else, would you? You are arguing a hypothetical that would not happen (at least in the US). If you NEED to be hospitalized for Covid and ARE…no one is tossing you out of the bed or even asking you to give up your bed once you are there.
blindmute 5y ago
Logically, it should be the vaccinated who give up their beds for the unvaccinated in such a situation. The vaccinated took Science's best preventive medicine and still are almost dying, so they're more likely to be a strain on the healthcare system in general over their lives --- they're sickly people. Better to try to save the person who has at least not proven themselves to have poor genetic immunity.