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There is no time in US history when measles killed anywhere near 100k+ people per year. The numbers I am seeing are in the thousands. https://i1.wp.com/vaxoped

by pfisch 5y ago

There is no time in US history when measles killed anywhere near 100k+ people per year. The numbers I am seeing are in the thousands. https://i1.wp.com/vaxopedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/anti-vax-measles-graph.png?resize=838%2C594&ssl=1 https://i1.wp.com/vaxopedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/a... Covid has killed upwards of 770k people in the US.

ufo 5y ago
Comparing death rates in the population is a misleading comparison. In a world of endemic measles most people get measles at some point; new outbreaks tend to hit mostly children, because they weren't born yet during the previous outbreak. To compare disease lethality we have to look at the number of infected patients, not the total population. If measles were a brand-new disease introduced today, it would also be a bloodbath.
- pfisch 5y ago
  This is a bunch of crazy person nonsense. You are saying we shouldn't look at death rates in the population when making health policy? Are you an insane person??? We should respond equally to a disease killing 1000 people per year vs 1 million per year or 10 million per year!??
  - ufo 5y ago
    I'm saying that if measles were a brand new disease, it's possible that it would cause a pandemic that's even worse than covid-19 was. Measles is nasty.
    - pfisch 5y ago
      This entire line of reasoning makes no sense at all. Any new disease could cause a massive death toll if we had no resistance to it at all. Our public health systems responds to reality, not theoretical casualties in populations that do not exist. If measles was killing 1 million people per year we would've absolutely locked down much harder to stop the spread. That is just common sense. It never was doing that. It was killing like 10k people or less per year. So any kind of comparison of our response to covid is ridiculous, except in acknowledging that even though measles was far less dangerous to our population, we still have mandated vaccination against it.

by pfisch 5y ago

ufo 5y ago

Comparing death rates in the population is a misleading comparison. In a world of endemic measles most people get measles at some point; new outbreaks tend to hit mostly children, because they weren't born yet during the previous outbreak. To compare disease lethality we have to look at the number of infected patients, not the total population. If measles were a brand-new disease introduced today, it would also be a bloodbath.

pfisch 5y ago
This is a bunch of crazy person nonsense. You are saying we shouldn't look at death rates in the population when making health policy? Are you an insane person??? We should respond equally to a disease killing 1000 people per year vs 1 million per year or 10 million per year!??
- ufo 5y ago
  I'm saying that if measles were a brand new disease, it's possible that it would cause a pandemic that's even worse than covid-19 was. Measles is nasty.
  - pfisch 5y ago
    This entire line of reasoning makes no sense at all. Any new disease could cause a massive death toll if we had no resistance to it at all. Our public health systems responds to reality, not theoretical casualties in populations that do not exist. If measles was killing 1 million people per year we would've absolutely locked down much harder to stop the spread. That is just common sense. It never was doing that. It was killing like 10k people or less per year. So any kind of comparison of our response to covid is ridiculous, except in acknowledging that even though measles was far less dangerous to our population, we still have mandated vaccination against it.