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Wow. That took me back. All those things, every day. And table layouts of course. And let's not forget slicing images, and slapping those into tables too. If I

by dmje 5y ago

Wow. That took me back. All those things, every day. And table layouts of course. And let's not forget slicing images, and slapping those into tables too. If I remember rightly, Photoshop had an "export to slices" thing built in. Amazing. Loved it. And of course one of the biggest issues with today's web: you can't just view source and copy paste. You're in the land of chasing back up CSS files, js libraries, or finding yourself unable to steal an image because it's not just an image you can right click on any more. Golden times.

bserge 5y ago
If you can see it, you can copy it. Maybe shit like webassembly will change that, but for now, steal away.
skytreader 5y ago
> you can't just view source and copy paste My highschool computer curriculum was basically a hacker school program for web dev stretched across three years (senior year we did VB6). I managed to be impressive because I would dissect web pages to learn their tricks. I think I must be the only one (or if not, at least among the first) in our level to pull off columned layout without CSS. I figured out <table border="0"></table> all by myself, neither the books nor the teachers taught you that. And I did that by reading source code on IE5---developer tools weren't a thing then! In our second year, one of the exercises was to recreate Yahoo's log-in page. I got closest exactly because of the above. I still feel smug remembering this. Golden times, indeed. :)
- throwaway984393 5y ago
  I was always jealous of schools that would teach some sort of programming or web design. My high school computer class (each year) was learning how to use MS Office. Which was probably the most useful instruction the rest of those kids could have received... but I wanted to learn to program. So, the computer class instructor sat me down and asked me what I knew about programming. "I can use Perl", I said (I had read Perl For Dummies, v5.00502 edition). So he told me to make an online calendar for the school. So, I did. No instruction... just figured it out as I went. And that's how I learned that managing and displaying events in arbitrary times and dates is harder than P=NP. Turns out that giving me that project was intended to save the school from having to pay for a real online calendar.
tenebrisalietum 5y ago
> finding yourself unable to steal an image There's browser extensions that will convert a whole page as it is loaded in the browser to an image file. For ever-scrolling pages you have to manually stop it.
- scantron4 5y ago
  Or just printscreen?
riedel 5y ago
Thanks to this post and internet archive's wayback machine I just had a trip back to the end of the 90s to some of the web pages I wrote these days for a local PR agency. I was surprised to see that they still render reasonably well on my smart phone. Nice dose of nostalgia
biofox 5y ago
I used to build entire sites in photoshop. It produced horrendous mark-up, but streamlined the whole design process, and allowed for really beautiful graphic designs. Haven't done web development in well over a decade, but I assume from your comment this is no longer a thing?
- mr_toad 5y ago
  > and allowed for really beautiful graphic designs So long as your browser window was the same resolution as the designers.
montag 5y ago
Source maps could be a saving grace here, if only more sites would ship them in production.

by dmje 5y ago

bserge 5y ago

If you can see it, you can copy it. Maybe shit like webassembly will change that, but for now, steal away.

skytreader 5y ago

> you can't just view source and copy paste My highschool computer curriculum was basically a hacker school program for web dev stretched across three years (senior year we did VB6). I managed to be impressive because I would dissect web pages to learn their tricks. I think I must be the only one (or if not, at least among the first) in our level to pull off columned layout without CSS. I figured out <table border="0"></table> all by myself, neither the books nor the teachers taught you that. And I did that by reading source code on IE5---developer tools weren't a thing then! In our second year, one of the exercises was to recreate Yahoo's log-in page. I got closest exactly because of the above. I still feel smug remembering this. Golden times, indeed. :)

throwaway984393 5y ago
I was always jealous of schools that would teach some sort of programming or web design. My high school computer class (each year) was learning how to use MS Office. Which was probably the most useful instruction the rest of those kids could have received... but I wanted to learn to program. So, the computer class instructor sat me down and asked me what I knew about programming. "I can use Perl", I said (I had read Perl For Dummies, v5.00502 edition). So he told me to make an online calendar for the school. So, I did. No instruction... just figured it out as I went. And that's how I learned that managing and displaying events in arbitrary times and dates is harder than P=NP. Turns out that giving me that project was intended to save the school from having to pay for a real online calendar.

tenebrisalietum 5y ago

> finding yourself unable to steal an image There's browser extensions that will convert a whole page as it is loaded in the browser to an image file. For ever-scrolling pages you have to manually stop it.

scantron4 5y ago
Or just printscreen?

riedel 5y ago

Thanks to this post and internet archive's wayback machine I just had a trip back to the end of the 90s to some of the web pages I wrote these days for a local PR agency. I was surprised to see that they still render reasonably well on my smart phone. Nice dose of nostalgia

biofox 5y ago

I used to build entire sites in photoshop. It produced horrendous mark-up, but streamlined the whole design process, and allowed for really beautiful graphic designs. Haven't done web development in well over a decade, but I assume from your comment this is no longer a thing?

mr_toad 5y ago
> and allowed for really beautiful graphic designs So long as your browser window was the same resolution as the designers.

montag 5y ago

Source maps could be a saving grace here, if only more sites would ship them in production.