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Difficult to categorize as such, because the vaccinated still spread the virus. And as long as R_t>1 pretty much everyone will get it. So unvaccinated cause ha
by tobias3 5y ago
Difficult to categorize as such, because the vaccinated still spread the virus. And as long as R_t>1 pretty much everyone will get it.
So unvaccinated cause harm to others indirectly by burding the healthcare system. And one also does that by socially acceptable stuff like motorcycling (or maybe that's a plus if one is organ donor?).
- 08-15 5y agoIndeed. That's why helmets are mandatory for motorcyclists. Helmets are to motorcycles as vaccines are to COVID. Neither guarantees that you don't die or need intensive care, but both reduce the likelihood.
- brutusborn 5y agoI really like this comparison but it misses the main reason that this is such a huge issue: there are basically no downsides to wearing a helmet, but for some people vaccinations will cause health problems. I know that P(issues from Covid) > P(issues from Covid Vaccines) for almost all cases, but the downside is hard for people to ignore.
- eganist 5y agohttps://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/vaccinated-individuals-can-still-pass-covid-19-in-household-settings https://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/vaccinated-individuals-ca... > The viral load declined more rapidly for those who were fully vaccinated than those who were unvaccinated. However, investigators noted that vaccinated individuals did not have a lower peak viral load than those who were vaccinated. Tldr: there's probably a window where vaccinated people can transmit the virus as effectively as unvaccinated people, but that window is almost certainly shorter. While that's probably not helpful in household settings, it's still plenty useful in cutting disease spread during short terms in confined spaces.