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Of course it isn't. In highly vaccinated countries like Ireland (89.1%) the virus is spreading and the bar for "herd immunity" has been raised to 95%. The dail

by rnqav 5y ago

Of course it isn't. In highly vaccinated countries like Ireland (89.1%) the virus is spreading and the bar for "herd immunity" has been raised to 95%. The daily death rate is the same as last year: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=total_cases&hideControls=true&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=false&Align+outbreaks=false&country=SWE~IRL https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor... Gibraltar has 100% vaccination rate (for the eligible) and cases are sharply rising. Unrelated to the issue of stigmatization, the obligatory reminder that Sweden's Covid-19 policies, while they resulted in a slightly higher cumulative death rate (1,468 per million vs 1,187 per million), are now producing excellent results, and the death rates are converging: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deat... https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=total_cases&hideControls=true&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=false&Align+outbreaks=false&country=DEU~SWE https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...

rnqav 5y ago
Are the downvotes coming from beneficiaries of Covid-19 like Internet corporations?
- ModernMech 5y ago
  The downvotes are coming because you've told us that cases are skyrocketing but the deaths are the same as they were last year, when cases were not skyrocketing. This shows that the vaccine is doing its job. Deaths Nov 2020: 6.57 Nov 2021: 6.14 Cases Nov 2020: 386.14 Nov 2021: 894.86 So over 2x the cases, and yet lower death rate. I'm not sure what Ireland is like but if it's anything like where I'm from, people are out and about more this year so more cases are expected. But a lower death rate with 2x more cases seems like an unambiguous win for the vaccine to me. You've said cases are exploding in Gibraltar, but no one has died there since October 15 due to Covid. Since they became highly vaccinated, only 4 people have died in total in Gibraltar. Almost 100 died last winter before vaccinations were distributed. Then the vaccine became available and they all got vaccinated. Now only 4 have died despite a huge outbreak. Again, seems like a huge win for the vaccine.

by rnqav 5y ago

rnqav 5y ago

Are the downvotes coming from beneficiaries of Covid-19 like Internet corporations?

ModernMech 5y ago
The downvotes are coming because you've told us that cases are skyrocketing but the deaths are the same as they were last year, when cases were not skyrocketing. This shows that the vaccine is doing its job. Deaths Nov 2020: 6.57 Nov 2021: 6.14 Cases Nov 2020: 386.14 Nov 2021: 894.86 So over 2x the cases, and yet lower death rate. I'm not sure what Ireland is like but if it's anything like where I'm from, people are out and about more this year so more cases are expected. But a lower death rate with 2x more cases seems like an unambiguous win for the vaccine to me. You've said cases are exploding in Gibraltar, but no one has died there since October 15 due to Covid. Since they became highly vaccinated, only 4 people have died in total in Gibraltar. Almost 100 died last winter before vaccinations were distributed. Then the vaccine became available and they all got vaccinated. Now only 4 have died despite a huge outbreak. Again, seems like a huge win for the vaccine.