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So much this! I pay for an Apple Music sub, but I should be able to choose from a wide array of player apps (or roll my own!).

marcellus23 5y ago
You literally can, the API exists and plenty of third party players also exist.
- BoorishBears 5y ago
  It's telling that the person who wrote that top level comment has clearly never actually tried to find a 3rd party player. Like how people will clamor for a theoretical feature, then you take the time to implement it, check your analytics, and find absolutely no one is using it.
  - wintermutestwin 5y ago
    Wow! I had no idea. In my defense, app discovery seems broken to me as I don't know a trustworthy source. I certainly can't trust app store reviews and info.
    - effingwewt 5y ago
      Too true, app store search is nothing but ads and spam. I can't fault you at all for not being able to find something reputable. Another instance of walled gardens failing to provide what people actually want, as opposed to what companies think we want.
      - wintermutestwin 5y ago
        If you are gonna build a walled garden, it becomes your responsibility to curate it well.
      - BoorishBears 5y ago
        I search "spotify equalizer" and the first result has 4 stars, is ranked top 200 for all music apps, has recent updates, has a clean tracking score card (usage data not tracked) Second result is a paid app, even higher rating, also top 200, no IAP. Like yes, the app store has problems. But no, that is not why you'd be unable to find a 3rd party player for one of the largest streaming platforms.
        wintermutestwin 5y ago
        I search "apple music player" and I get 1 out of 20 apps that is actually appropriate. Notably, I get Amazon and Spotify players prominently placed. Reviews on app stores are dubious at best. Then you have the "in-app" purchases garbage.
        BoorishBears 5y ago
        "Prominently placed"... you mean placed with a clear "AD" button under the name? And instead of 20 results when there's no guarantee 20 quality apps even exist... what about the first result besides a clear ad and Apple Music itself? And what do you know, it's a top 100 app, over 12 years old, updated last month, and sitting at a 4.6 rating with 51k ratings.
        wintermutestwin 5y ago
        Music Player? First off, it is "free" with in-app purchases, which translates to: we are hiding the cost of the app = sketchy nonsense. The age of the app is indeed a positive indicator, but reviews are not a good indicator. Also, it is yet another privacy rapist with all the unnecessary tracking. The worst part is that nowhere in the tiny blurb does it indicate that it actually works with Apple Music! Even when you do manage to find a potential replacement for Apple Music, Apple has locked devs out of key features like showing lyrics and the ability to remove anything from your library. This goes back to my original point...
      - effingwewt 5y ago
        replying to myself to add- if you doubt this, search 'calculator' on iOS app store, and see how long it takes you to find one that isn't throwing ads at you every time you tally something.
js2 5y ago
https://www.imore.com/best-alternatives-apples-music-app-iphone-and-ipad https://www.imore.com/best-alternatives-apples-music-app-iph...

marcellus23 5y ago

You literally can, the API exists and plenty of third party players also exist.

BoorishBears 5y ago
It's telling that the person who wrote that top level comment has clearly never actually tried to find a 3rd party player. Like how people will clamor for a theoretical feature, then you take the time to implement it, check your analytics, and find absolutely no one is using it.
- wintermutestwin 5y ago
  Wow! I had no idea. In my defense, app discovery seems broken to me as I don't know a trustworthy source. I certainly can't trust app store reviews and info.
  - effingwewt 5y ago
    Too true, app store search is nothing but ads and spam. I can't fault you at all for not being able to find something reputable. Another instance of walled gardens failing to provide what people actually want, as opposed to what companies think we want.
    - wintermutestwin 5y ago
      If you are gonna build a walled garden, it becomes your responsibility to curate it well.
    - BoorishBears 5y ago
      I search "spotify equalizer" and the first result has 4 stars, is ranked top 200 for all music apps, has recent updates, has a clean tracking score card (usage data not tracked) Second result is a paid app, even higher rating, also top 200, no IAP. Like yes, the app store has problems. But no, that is not why you'd be unable to find a 3rd party player for one of the largest streaming platforms.
      - wintermutestwin 5y ago
        I search "apple music player" and I get 1 out of 20 apps that is actually appropriate. Notably, I get Amazon and Spotify players prominently placed. Reviews on app stores are dubious at best. Then you have the "in-app" purchases garbage.
        BoorishBears 5y ago
        "Prominently placed"... you mean placed with a clear "AD" button under the name? And instead of 20 results when there's no guarantee 20 quality apps even exist... what about the first result besides a clear ad and Apple Music itself? And what do you know, it's a top 100 app, over 12 years old, updated last month, and sitting at a 4.6 rating with 51k ratings.
        wintermutestwin 5y ago
        Music Player? First off, it is "free" with in-app purchases, which translates to: we are hiding the cost of the app = sketchy nonsense. The age of the app is indeed a positive indicator, but reviews are not a good indicator. Also, it is yet another privacy rapist with all the unnecessary tracking. The worst part is that nowhere in the tiny blurb does it indicate that it actually works with Apple Music! Even when you do manage to find a potential replacement for Apple Music, Apple has locked devs out of key features like showing lyrics and the ability to remove anything from your library. This goes back to my original point...
    - effingwewt 5y ago
      replying to myself to add- if you doubt this, search 'calculator' on iOS app store, and see how long it takes you to find one that isn't throwing ads at you every time you tally something.

js2 5y ago

https://www.imore.com/best-alternatives-apples-music-app-iphone-and-ipad https://www.imore.com/best-alternatives-apples-music-app-iph...