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This reminds me of the case with Simon Stålenhag—when he got hassled by token enthusiasts trying to convince him to join (to lend their space such direly needed

This reminds me of the case with Simon Stålenhag—when he got hassled by token enthusiasts trying to convince him to join (to lend their space such direly needed credibility), and later found somebody else selling his art as on some NFT marketplace.

kranke155 5y ago
Direly needed credibility ? Not sure when what you’re describing happened. NFTs are in every major art auction house, major world art exhibit (Venice, Basel, etc) In the art world NFTs are now ubiquitous.
- strogonoff 5y ago
  Well, the reality is that token promoters came to Simon, not Simon to token promoters, so… By the way, care to support with any links at all? So far these are empty words. Googling Venice NFT does not point to some reputable gallery adopting tokens, just a post from some cryptocurrency promoting media outlet about some token promoters who set up their own gallery on a beach.
  - kranke155 5y ago
    https://fadmagazine.com/2021/11/18/nft-now-x-christies-present-the-gateway-at-art-basel-miami/ https://fadmagazine.com/2021/11/18/nft-now-x-christies-prese... https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2021/11/09/tezos-brings-artificial-intelligence-and-nfts-together-at-art-basel-miami-beach https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2021/11/09/tezos-brings-arti... My bad for thinking NFTs were in Venice officially. Here’s a good overview of what’s happening even though it’s an article critizing Frieze London - https://www.google.com/amp/s/decrypt.co/84466/london-nft-scene-thrives-even-as-frieze-art-fair-sits-out%3famp=1 https://www.google.com/amp/s/decrypt.co/84466/london-nft-sce... There was of course the huge gathering in NYC a short time ago. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/11/05/technology/nft-nyc-metaverse.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/11/05/tech... Christie’s, Sotheby’s are selling NFTs. The art fairs are adopting. Visa has purchased a major NFT for their art collection (Cryptopunk). Multiple major brands and celebrities are minting and joining NFT platforms ie Pharell in Music. As far as artists go I’m finding that most have heard of NFTs and many are adopting.
    - strogonoff 5y ago
      So why are you personally spending so much energy on here trying to convince everyone NFTs are worthwhile, if you believe it is established reality?
      - kranke155 5y ago
        I broke my foot. I have a lot of free time right now! Spending a lot of it online. But partially I hope that some people here see the problems not as "this is never going to work" and more as "hey this seems like an interesting challenge to solve". The space needs developers, so if I convince one person a week to take a look at it, that's a big win. If it doesn't happen, well my foot is still broken.
    - acjohnson55 5y ago
      I used to work in the art auction world. Christie's and Sotheby's will sell anything that there is a market for, especially if it burnishes their brand and relevance.

kranke155 5y ago

Direly needed credibility ? Not sure when what you’re describing happened. NFTs are in every major art auction house, major world art exhibit (Venice, Basel, etc) In the art world NFTs are now ubiquitous.

strogonoff 5y ago
Well, the reality is that token promoters came to Simon, not Simon to token promoters, so… By the way, care to support with any links at all? So far these are empty words. Googling Venice NFT does not point to some reputable gallery adopting tokens, just a post from some cryptocurrency promoting media outlet about some token promoters who set up their own gallery on a beach.
- kranke155 5y ago
  https://fadmagazine.com/2021/11/18/nft-now-x-christies-present-the-gateway-at-art-basel-miami/ https://fadmagazine.com/2021/11/18/nft-now-x-christies-prese... https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2021/11/09/tezos-brings-artificial-intelligence-and-nfts-together-at-art-basel-miami-beach https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2021/11/09/tezos-brings-arti... My bad for thinking NFTs were in Venice officially. Here’s a good overview of what’s happening even though it’s an article critizing Frieze London - https://www.google.com/amp/s/decrypt.co/84466/london-nft-scene-thrives-even-as-frieze-art-fair-sits-out%3famp=1 https://www.google.com/amp/s/decrypt.co/84466/london-nft-sce... There was of course the huge gathering in NYC a short time ago. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/11/05/technology/nft-nyc-metaverse.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/11/05/tech... Christie’s, Sotheby’s are selling NFTs. The art fairs are adopting. Visa has purchased a major NFT for their art collection (Cryptopunk). Multiple major brands and celebrities are minting and joining NFT platforms ie Pharell in Music. As far as artists go I’m finding that most have heard of NFTs and many are adopting.
  - strogonoff 5y ago
    So why are you personally spending so much energy on here trying to convince everyone NFTs are worthwhile, if you believe it is established reality?
    - kranke155 5y ago
      I broke my foot. I have a lot of free time right now! Spending a lot of it online. But partially I hope that some people here see the problems not as "this is never going to work" and more as "hey this seems like an interesting challenge to solve". The space needs developers, so if I convince one person a week to take a look at it, that's a big win. If it doesn't happen, well my foot is still broken.
  - acjohnson55 5y ago
    I used to work in the art auction world. Christie's and Sotheby's will sell anything that there is a market for, especially if it burnishes their brand and relevance.