I don't see anything interesting to be discussed about cryptos. The initial promise of blockchain seems to have been side-lined: independent governing systems,

I don't see anything interesting to be discussed about cryptos. The initial promise of blockchain seems to have been side-lined: independent governing systems, tamper-free databases, and all the good stuff that the enthusiasts used to sell the dream to everybody else. Nowadays it just seems like a speculative market for "get rich quick" suckers to lose their money so the other 1% to 5% who are better informed can actually make a buck. What is there to discuss regarding cryptos according to you, OP? I am not as aggressive as other HN posters in all crypto threads (in fact I almost never engage with them even) but I just don't see them being worth a discussion in general.