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You don't find it annoying having to override the 'intelligent' system? With manual control, I can immediately start or stop hot and cold air; with a climate s

You don't find it annoying having to override the 'intelligent' system? With manual control, I can immediately start or stop hot and cold air; with a climate system, I can merely propose some higher or lower temperature, and the system may or may not do what I want it to do. I temporarily drove a Buick that had such a system, and found myself constantly having to override what the 'intelligent' system thought I wanted. I prefer manual control. If the vehicle is too cool, I can immediately halt the blower without having to change the desired temperature with the assumption that the 'intelligent' system will halt the blower for me. I've come to the realization that many things are just better not being made 'intelligent', especially when it comes to cars.

koolba 5y ago
Automated climate control always reminds me of that Bane quote from Dark Knight, “Do you feel like you are in control?” The instant gratification of slamming an analog heater to full blast and knowing that hot air will immediately flow from the vents cannot be beat. It’s not efficient, it’s not optimized, it’s not regulated to a steady state, but it what I want. And I’m the user.
- bee_rider 5y ago
  I actually wonder about the efficiency of these automatic systems. These automatic systems are trying to, what, make the whole cabin achieve some set temperature? Who cares about the average cabin temperature? The airconditioner is pointed right at me. I care about the temperature of the air coming out of the vents and flowing over me. Assuming the back seat isn't populated, there's a whole volume of air back there being unnecessarily cooled..
fishtacos 5y ago
I don't find it annoying particularly, but that's probably because a single tactile button push in my old 2004 Chrysler changes the HVAC settings from auto to manual. Still prefer the set it and forget it thermostat, however. Having both options is best, which is precisely what the article was about, and we're not in disagreement here, to be clear. Was merely discussing the merits of climate controlled hvac.

koolba 5y ago

Automated climate control always reminds me of that Bane quote from Dark Knight, “Do you feel like you are in control?” The instant gratification of slamming an analog heater to full blast and knowing that hot air will immediately flow from the vents cannot be beat. It’s not efficient, it’s not optimized, it’s not regulated to a steady state, but it what I want. And I’m the user.

bee_rider 5y ago
I actually wonder about the efficiency of these automatic systems. These automatic systems are trying to, what, make the whole cabin achieve some set temperature? Who cares about the average cabin temperature? The airconditioner is pointed right at me. I care about the temperature of the air coming out of the vents and flowing over me. Assuming the back seat isn't populated, there's a whole volume of air back there being unnecessarily cooled..

fishtacos 5y ago

I don't find it annoying particularly, but that's probably because a single tactile button push in my old 2004 Chrysler changes the HVAC settings from auto to manual. Still prefer the set it and forget it thermostat, however. Having both options is best, which is precisely what the article was about, and we're not in disagreement here, to be clear. Was merely discussing the merits of climate controlled hvac.