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I think you underestimate the influence corporations exert on governments.

vmception 5y ago
oh not at all, just reinforcing how little the crypto asset existence matters in creating this reality. they would be perfectly fine with using Western Union as they don't care about the investigation. crypto does reduce friction though in acquiring and sending arbitrary amounts, but people still just can't imagine that recipients simply want crypto for the sake of having crypto instead of their local currency.
- Oddskar 5y ago
  I don't think you can transfer millions of euros via Western Union and keep it anonymous. No way.
  - vmception 5y ago
    You're missing that nobody is caring about anonymity here, that's what I've been saying the other two posts The major ransomware operators are not caring about anonymity and are not using that aspect from any payment method they allow including crypto There is simply no cooperation with local law enforcement What were you referring to regarding corporations exerting power on governments?
    - ManuelKiessling 5y ago
      Well, instead of repeating it again and again, how about just stating it once, but this time with something like, you know, a proof? Or at least a source for the claim?
      - vmception 5y ago
        you want to me to prove what exactly? that russian federal and municipal government isnt going after ransomware operators despite having capability to know who they are? I’m trying to think of the best source for this? The assumptions themselves seem to arbitrary for me to bother disproving, the assumptions being: they’re anonymous they’re trying to be anonymous they’re using crypto to bolster their anonymity they need to convert the crypto to cash as opposed to just accumulating crypto because they prefer it This all relies on a complete misunderstanding of ransomware operations and why people in general like crypto that no single article will help. The best articles talk about negotiations with ransomware customer support, which simply show how brazen they are. Doesnt seem a satisfactory sourcr for anyone that has already created a negative assumption that needs to be disproven. What do you think? I’m completely fine with being at an impasse here, take it up with the ransomware SaaS providers they might even have an address listed at this point

oh not at all, just reinforcing how little the crypto asset existence matters in creating this reality. they would be perfectly fine with using Western Union as they don't care about the investigation. crypto does reduce friction though in acquiring and sending arbitrary amounts, but people still just can't imagine that recipients simply want crypto for the sake of having crypto instead of their local currency.

Oddskar 5y ago
I don't think you can transfer millions of euros via Western Union and keep it anonymous. No way.
- vmception 5y ago
  You're missing that nobody is caring about anonymity here, that's what I've been saying the other two posts The major ransomware operators are not caring about anonymity and are not using that aspect from any payment method they allow including crypto There is simply no cooperation with local law enforcement What were you referring to regarding corporations exerting power on governments?
  - ManuelKiessling 5y ago
    Well, instead of repeating it again and again, how about just stating it once, but this time with something like, you know, a proof? Or at least a source for the claim?
    - vmception 5y ago
      you want to me to prove what exactly? that russian federal and municipal government isnt going after ransomware operators despite having capability to know who they are? I’m trying to think of the best source for this? The assumptions themselves seem to arbitrary for me to bother disproving, the assumptions being: they’re anonymous they’re trying to be anonymous they’re using crypto to bolster their anonymity they need to convert the crypto to cash as opposed to just accumulating crypto because they prefer it This all relies on a complete misunderstanding of ransomware operations and why people in general like crypto that no single article will help. The best articles talk about negotiations with ransomware customer support, which simply show how brazen they are. Doesnt seem a satisfactory sourcr for anyone that has already created a negative assumption that needs to be disproven. What do you think? I’m completely fine with being at an impasse here, take it up with the ransomware SaaS providers they might even have an address listed at this point