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There've been several studies indicating just perceiving women has a negative effect on heterosexual male academic performance. Until now I assumed men had the

There've been several studies indicating just perceiving women has a negative effect on heterosexual male academic performance. Until now I assumed men had the same effect on homosexual males. Perhaps that isn't the case?

moate 5y ago
Citation needed? I would love to see what controls are involved in this since my own personal research has shown "Misogynists love to blame women for their problems" pretty consistently.
- cgriswald 5y ago
  The call for a citation is warranted, and, if the data supports the claim, I'm curious whether the same applies to homosexual males and if there is a significant difference between closeted and out homosexual males. However, it does not follow that someone pointing out a biological reality (if it is, indeed, the reality) automatically blames women for their own sub-optimal performance and is therefore a misogynist. This is true, even if some misogynists use the exact same finding to do so.
- dTal 5y ago
  A quick google turns this up: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232368611_Interacting_With_Women_Can_Impair_Men%27s_Cognitive_Functioning https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232368611_Interacti... and this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3394231/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3394231/ I recall also reading something similar regarding sexual imagery specifically, but I cannot immediately locate it. I do think your immediate leap to "misogyny" is uncharitable and unfair. There's nothing inherently implausible or sexist about the hypothesis.
- Causality1 5y ago
  I fail to see how pointing out a way in which men react to women makes it in any way the fault of women. Replicating dTal's citations: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232368611_Interacting_With_Women_Can_Impair_Men%27s_Cognitive_Functioning https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232368611_Interacti... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3394231/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3394231/

moate 5y ago

Citation needed? I would love to see what controls are involved in this since my own personal research has shown "Misogynists love to blame women for their problems" pretty consistently.

cgriswald 5y ago
The call for a citation is warranted, and, if the data supports the claim, I'm curious whether the same applies to homosexual males and if there is a significant difference between closeted and out homosexual males. However, it does not follow that someone pointing out a biological reality (if it is, indeed, the reality) automatically blames women for their own sub-optimal performance and is therefore a misogynist. This is true, even if some misogynists use the exact same finding to do so.
dTal 5y ago
A quick google turns this up: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232368611_Interacting_With_Women_Can_Impair_Men%27s_Cognitive_Functioning https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232368611_Interacti... and this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3394231/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3394231/ I recall also reading something similar regarding sexual imagery specifically, but I cannot immediately locate it. I do think your immediate leap to "misogyny" is uncharitable and unfair. There's nothing inherently implausible or sexist about the hypothesis.
Causality1 5y ago
I fail to see how pointing out a way in which men react to women makes it in any way the fault of women. Replicating dTal's citations: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232368611_Interacting_With_Women_Can_Impair_Men%27s_Cognitive_Functioning https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232368611_Interacti... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3394231/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3394231/