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If I'm not willing to pay for a browser, why should I be surprised when the free software tries to make money? Yeah, it's not ideal and I'll turn the feature of

If I'm not willing to pay for a browser, why should I be surprised when the free software tries to make money? Yeah, it's not ideal and I'll turn the feature off if it makes it public. But I'm choosing to use a free browser instead of paying for it.. So I can't blame a company for trying to monetize it.

cyber_kinetist 5y ago
The problem is, there is no paid browser you can pay for at the moment, so you don’t really have any choice in the matter. If some current/former Mozilla devs fork Firefox and start a new paid browser, I would gladly give money to them. ($5 per month subscription would probably be the sweet spot for such a paid browser program.)
freediver 5y ago
What happens when there is a feature in the future that you also do not like and you can not turn it off, but you are already locked in?
Viliam1234 5y ago
If you use Edge, I suppose you already paid for Windows, didn't you? Will similar "features" appear also in Notepad, Calculator, Character Map, etc.? Because, technically, you didn't pay for them either, they are just free application that got installed with Windows. Okay, maybe it is not as bad as I make it sound. Perhaps it would be nice if anytime you display a unicode character in Character Map, it offered you an option to buy a t-shirt with this character printed...
- cube00 5y ago
  Notepad now has "Search with Bing" in its Edit menu and it can't be changed to another search engine.
  - krono 5y ago
    And a "Search Bing in Sidebar" context menu option when selecting text. And the default Chromium keyboard shortcut for searching selected text with your default search engine has been hardcoded to open Bing. And the new tab page searchbar takes an extra step to have it not search Bing when you have configured a different default search engine. And recently they added a neat search button in browser console events. Unfortunately it only does Bing, and news articles about Amazon worker strikes are not helpful when debugging web worker errors.... There's a lot of good stuff happening with this browser, but I'm definitely getting close to my breaking point.
    - siproprio 5y ago
      There's nothing good happening on edge. The only thing happening are those sorts of things. It's also funny how for example they still manage to get basic things wrong, like a smooth and instantaneous gui, good design (made to improve user experience, rather than cross-selling), etc.
  - selfhoster11 5y ago
    That is brazen and repulsive. I cannot possibly imagine a "Search with MSN" menu item on the Windows XP Notepad.
  - siproprio 5y ago
    God for some reason I just hate these "features" that are designed to push Bing and Ads. I still remember they had to kill cortana because the implementation was universally hated by people.
- nrclark 5y ago
  Freecell has ads in it now, and tries to push a subscription service. Microsoft is really doing themselves a dirty by trying to nickel-and-dime its customers with stuff like this.
coffeefirst 5y ago
Meanwhile, there are no browsers you can pay for.
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cyber_kinetist 5y ago

The problem is, there is no paid browser you can pay for at the moment, so you don’t really have any choice in the matter. If some current/former Mozilla devs fork Firefox and start a new paid browser, I would gladly give money to them. ($5 per month subscription would probably be the sweet spot for such a paid browser program.)

freediver 5y ago

What happens when there is a feature in the future that you also do not like and you can not turn it off, but you are already locked in?

Viliam1234 5y ago

If you use Edge, I suppose you already paid for Windows, didn't you? Will similar "features" appear also in Notepad, Calculator, Character Map, etc.? Because, technically, you didn't pay for them either, they are just free application that got installed with Windows. Okay, maybe it is not as bad as I make it sound. Perhaps it would be nice if anytime you display a unicode character in Character Map, it offered you an option to buy a t-shirt with this character printed...

cube00 5y ago
Notepad now has "Search with Bing" in its Edit menu and it can't be changed to another search engine.
- krono 5y ago
  And a "Search Bing in Sidebar" context menu option when selecting text. And the default Chromium keyboard shortcut for searching selected text with your default search engine has been hardcoded to open Bing. And the new tab page searchbar takes an extra step to have it not search Bing when you have configured a different default search engine. And recently they added a neat search button in browser console events. Unfortunately it only does Bing, and news articles about Amazon worker strikes are not helpful when debugging web worker errors.... There's a lot of good stuff happening with this browser, but I'm definitely getting close to my breaking point.
  - siproprio 5y ago
    There's nothing good happening on edge. The only thing happening are those sorts of things. It's also funny how for example they still manage to get basic things wrong, like a smooth and instantaneous gui, good design (made to improve user experience, rather than cross-selling), etc.
- selfhoster11 5y ago
  That is brazen and repulsive. I cannot possibly imagine a "Search with MSN" menu item on the Windows XP Notepad.
- siproprio 5y ago
  God for some reason I just hate these "features" that are designed to push Bing and Ads. I still remember they had to kill cortana because the implementation was universally hated by people.
nrclark 5y ago
Freecell has ads in it now, and tries to push a subscription service. Microsoft is really doing themselves a dirty by trying to nickel-and-dime its customers with stuff like this.

coffeefirst 5y ago

Meanwhile, there are no browsers you can pay for.

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