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I have a https://www.unihertz.com/collections/smartphones/products/jelly-2 https://www.unihertz.com/collections/smartphones/products/je... and a palm palm. The

I have a https://www.unihertz.com/collections/smartphones/products/jelly-2 https://www.unihertz.com/collections/smartphones/products/je... and a palm palm. They are similar in size for height/width, but the jelly 2 is about twice the depth compared to the palm. Both are around the size of a credit card in width/height. The palm works well if all you do is occasional sms, phonecalls and very little app useage (like I have my mobile banking app on it). It only runs a older android version (8). Make sure to de-bloat it aggressively if you get it (enable developer mode, connect via ADB and remove anything verizon and everything that sounds like it might have a phone-home "feature"). If you often listen to podcasts/music on your phone and don't want a mid-day charge the palm will not work. The jelly 2 is much more realistic when it comes to battery and with light usage I get 3 days out of it, normal usage (podcasts/music a few hours per day, some surfing and email) I get 1.5 days out of it. I don't use bluetooth headphones though, so not sure how much that impacts it. I looked at a lot of "small" phones on chinese import sites, but most of them seem to run ancient android (like 4-5) and be really, really slow with bad battery life and questionable quality. Also if I buy from an unknown brand I'd want to run LineageOS to make sure I get updates and can remove potential spyware. The palm is pretty cheap on ebay and works even if you don't have verizon (I'm in the EU and just removed the verizon apps and used a normal SIM). In general there are no good options for small phones. The iphone mini is too large for my tastes, the jelly 2 is a bit too thick, and the palm is running old android and has too bad battery. Depending on your usage the palm or the jelly 2 are probably the least bad options.

nabilhat 5y ago
> ...if all you do is occasional sms, phonecalls and very little app useage (like I have my mobile banking app on it). It only runs a older android version (8). Make sure to de-bloat it aggressively if you get it (enable developer mode, connect via ADB and remove anything verizon and everything that sounds like it might have a phone-home "feature"). These three things go so well together. I have a 5 year old basic Moto that's been stripped down aggressively with ADB. It started as an experiment when battery life went south. I thought I'd be replacing it anyway. Battery life went from 7 hours of sitting quietly to 3-4 days, and suddenly it was a viable phone again. More than viable, in fact the best battery life of any mobile phone I've ever owned. I'd add Netguard to those steps. Netguard is great for identifying which apps are phoning home, and blocking telemetry from the ones I choose to keep around, like the canned clock or contacts apps. The few Play Store apps I have get updated by temporarily installing Aurora now and then, the rest come from FDroid. Dropping Play Store is what fixed my battery problem, that's primarily what was gorging on the watt-hours. I think that problem's been mediated since, but I've been fine without it.

nabilhat 5y ago

> ...if all you do is occasional sms, phonecalls and very little app useage (like I have my mobile banking app on it). It only runs a older android version (8). Make sure to de-bloat it aggressively if you get it (enable developer mode, connect via ADB and remove anything verizon and everything that sounds like it might have a phone-home "feature"). These three things go so well together. I have a 5 year old basic Moto that's been stripped down aggressively with ADB. It started as an experiment when battery life went south. I thought I'd be replacing it anyway. Battery life went from 7 hours of sitting quietly to 3-4 days, and suddenly it was a viable phone again. More than viable, in fact the best battery life of any mobile phone I've ever owned. I'd add Netguard to those steps. Netguard is great for identifying which apps are phoning home, and blocking telemetry from the ones I choose to keep around, like the canned clock or contacts apps. The few Play Store apps I have get updated by temporarily installing Aurora now and then, the rest come from FDroid. Dropping Play Store is what fixed my battery problem, that's primarily what was gorging on the watt-hours. I think that problem's been mediated since, but I've been fine without it.