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That's all well and good until people start wanting more power over the development. It would be nice if these projects that started out with a clear goal and i

That's all well and good until people start wanting more power over the development. It would be nice if these projects that started out with a clear goal and intentions stayed this way. The unfortunate truth is CMS's are ten a penny these days and to knock the big boys off is near impossible Yes it looks good, yes it looks promising but yes there are 100's of CMS's already built out there that do this exact job. Good luck with the endeavour but I think you are about 5 years too late

mattront 15y ago
Thanks for your feedback! Our unique value proposition is that designers can build custom site templates quickly, without coding. Most existing solutions (Weebly for example) require coding html / css templates for implementing custom site design. Our target market are designers who don't have a lot of coding skills or those who don't want to deal with coding for smaller projects.
- blakeperdue 15y ago
  Did you do any research to validate that designers want something like this?
  - mattront 15y ago
    Yes. We did a lot of client web development work (Pinegrow evolved from there) and we often work with designers who need us to turn their designs into a functional site. Many designers are not coders and have no interest in dealing with nuances of html, css and javascript. They are very interested in Pinegrow as a development tool, backed up by good technical customer support.
watty 15y ago
What other CMS's do what PineGrow does (complete customized creation without coding)?
- chrislomax 15y ago
  There was a drag and drop product released a few years ago that did just this. I can't remember the name of it now and it's dropped off the face of the planet. My point really was that people will always want more, more power over what they can do and it's quite easy to lose scope and start putting more power into the solution. We developed our own CMS at our company, it's not for outside world usage but for internal so it's not that I am adverse to the development of them. If I was a company though, I see no issue in downloading Wordpress and buying a template. You get the added knowledge that you can get 1000's of widgets and you can virtually drop them anywhere onto the design of your choice. I sincerely do wish the develops all the best in such a competitive market and hope that the niche they offer hits off with designers. I'll i'm saying is, don't lose scope.
  - watty 15y ago
    Making up lies is an interesting way to get your point across.
    - chrislomax 15y ago
      I'm sorry, what lies am I making up? I do love a good keyboard warrior

mattront 15y ago

Thanks for your feedback! Our unique value proposition is that designers can build custom site templates quickly, without coding. Most existing solutions (Weebly for example) require coding html / css templates for implementing custom site design. Our target market are designers who don't have a lot of coding skills or those who don't want to deal with coding for smaller projects.

blakeperdue 15y ago
Did you do any research to validate that designers want something like this?
- mattront 15y ago
  Yes. We did a lot of client web development work (Pinegrow evolved from there) and we often work with designers who need us to turn their designs into a functional site. Many designers are not coders and have no interest in dealing with nuances of html, css and javascript. They are very interested in Pinegrow as a development tool, backed up by good technical customer support.

watty 15y ago

What other CMS's do what PineGrow does (complete customized creation without coding)?

chrislomax 15y ago
There was a drag and drop product released a few years ago that did just this. I can't remember the name of it now and it's dropped off the face of the planet. My point really was that people will always want more, more power over what they can do and it's quite easy to lose scope and start putting more power into the solution. We developed our own CMS at our company, it's not for outside world usage but for internal so it's not that I am adverse to the development of them. If I was a company though, I see no issue in downloading Wordpress and buying a template. You get the added knowledge that you can get 1000's of widgets and you can virtually drop them anywhere onto the design of your choice. I sincerely do wish the develops all the best in such a competitive market and hope that the niche they offer hits off with designers. I'll i'm saying is, don't lose scope.
- watty 15y ago
  Making up lies is an interesting way to get your point across.
  - chrislomax 15y ago
    I'm sorry, what lies am I making up? I do love a good keyboard warrior