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No I am not ;). Nice work (and very nice name — although know that Picasso was actually an asshole). The slides are a very nice addition to the landing pages,
by p4bl0 5y ago
No I am not ;).
Nice work (and very nice name — although know that Picasso was actually an asshole). The slides are a very nice addition to the landing pages, I think the link to them should be emphasized more: http://slides.pablojs.com/ http://slides.pablojs.com/.
- coldtea 5y ago>although know that Picasso was actually an asshole Well, as opposed to who of us? The main difference being that we know of his private life...
- etc-hosts 5y agoits a reference to the Modern Lovers song "Pablo Picasso" (I think)
- mark_h 5y agoAll this time I thought it was a John Cale song! (Granted I'd never checked) Edit: Huh, he did produce it, played on the original recording, and then released his cover before the original: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Picasso_(song) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Picasso_(song)
- p4bl0 5y agoIt was not, I didn't know about that song. I put a list of link about Picasso elsewhere in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29292805 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29292805
- p4bl0 5y agoThat's a good point. I'm not at all saying “#NotAllMen”. But not all projects are named after someone, or have a reference to that someone on their front page (here, a quote).
- marcellus23 5y agoWhere does #NotAllMen fit in?
- p4bl0 5y agoWhen coldtea said "Well, as opposed to who of us?" he implied that we all are assholes. Given the reason I was saying that about Picasso, which are all linked to sexist behavior and patriarchy, I understood that "us" as "men".
- marcellus23 5y agoI didn’t infer he was talking about men specifically. Plenty of women are assholes, an equal amount to men I would say. It’s a universal human phenomenon.
- p4bl0 5y agoYes. That's why I explained the context which led to my understanding of his comment when you asked.
- marcellus23 5y agoWhat are you responding “yes” to? The part I’m disagreeing with is that men are uniquely assholes.
- p4bl0 5y agoI'm agreeing with “It’s a universal human phenomenon.”.
- coldtea 5y agoI was mostly meaning it as in: "who are we to judge", as opposed as to "we are all assholes". I'm sure plenty are assholes, plenty are not, and many women are too. But my point was, any of us could be much worse, including those pointing the finger at Picasso, the main difference being that we don't have our lives open for all to see, as is the case with someone like Picasso.
- Levitz 5y agoWell I'd say most of us aren't "dating a 17 year old while 45" kind of questionable.
- coldtea 5y agoIt wasn't that questionable in 20th century Paris, much less to artistic and bohemian circles... They weren't exactly about puritan prudery and bourgeois morality... Not to mention that "I disaprove of him dating a 17th year old when he was 45" to "asshole" is quite a long way...
- marcellus23 5y agoYou know that was considered fine until like a couple decades ago right? And even now it’s highly dependent on culture.
- bryanrasmussen 5y agoEverybody knows that Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k43XjuhInkU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k43XjuhInkU
- is_true 5y agoWhat did he do?
- p4bl0 5y agoYou could check these references: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-13/picassos-depiction-of-sexual-violence-under-microscope/10798652 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-13/picassos-depiction-of... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-28/hannah-gadsby-interview-picasso-and-trump-and-nakedy-nudes/9486436 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-28/hannah-gadsby-intervi... https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/picasso-was-an-artistic-genius-but-he-was-also-a-bullying-womaniser-we-should-show-his-true-colours-a4353036.html https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/picasso-was-an-ar... https://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/a41293/bertolucci-abuse-art/ https://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/a41293/bertoluc...
- adolph 5y agoIt is possible to appreciate art without tedious pro-forma denunciations of the artist's behavior? At some point a creator's name is less about a historical person or apocryphal personage than the collective value found in artifacts and ideas.
- p4bl0 5y agoI understand why you would say that, adolph. But first, Picasso's art is tightly linked to his misbehavior, and second, we're not even talking about Picasso's art here, we're discussing the name of a project which is a direct reference to Picasso.
- adolph 5y ago> Picasso's art is tightly linked to his misbehavior No it isn't. Don't get stuck on stupid.
- p4bl0 5y agoPlease read the references I put elsewhere in this thread before saying such things. You are wrong. It's not a matter of opinion, it is a fact that some of his paintings are direct expression of his violence against women. And that his career was partly made possible by his exploitation of his (successive) wives (who he happens to have intentionally broken their career for two of them).