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Pretty sure I read on HN the other day that iPhone minis are below 10% of sales and won’t be continued next gen. I have to carry two phones for work and really

Pretty sure I read on HN the other day that iPhone minis are below 10% of sales and won’t be continued next gen. I have to carry two phones for work and really like the second one to be small. Stuck it out with a 1st gen iPhone SE for a long time (headphone jack ftw), whereas the current gen SE is as big as a 6. Bah.

ericpauley 5y ago
You may be referring to [1], which I believe showed up on here. This article seemed somewhat misleading to me as it mostly referred to the fact that apple had enough minis to meet demand until the next version, not that they were cancelling the product. For what it’s worth I know several people that are extremely pleased with the mini, and that are far more likely to upgrade because of it. [1] https://www.macrumors.com/2021/06/30/apple-ends-iphone-12-mini-production/ https://www.macrumors.com/2021/06/30/apple-ends-iphone-12-mi...
- js2 5y ago
  If Apple was going to nix the mini altogether, they wouldn't have just introduced the iPhone 13 mini.
  - dlisboa 5y ago
    I don’t think that’s related. Apple goes through many iterations of something the market does not want before they axe it: Touch Bar, butterfly keys, USB-C only ports, etc. These could all have been axed after the first year and were not. Personally I rather like the minis and hope they don’t kill it, though I’m afraid that I might be in a minority. But it appears they sell more than other companies flagships, so maybe the market for it is underrated.
wruza 5y ago
I was about to buy mini, but compared to se 2020 it has no borders and a better camera. Camera I don’t care of, and no borders is actually a downgrade for me. I like to 1) be able to hold my phone and not touch the screen by a “thumb butt”, 2) reading something with its bottom side sitting on my belly, where shirt or blanket folds may cover the screen if it’s full-height. No borders is just a designer’s delusion to me. I have a friend with mini and after every other telegram message he tries to record an audio because the record button is exactly at the bottom right of the case when the keyboard is hidden. If Apple stops making SEs, I’ll have to search for a special border extending case.
- Jtsummers 5y ago
  I have the 13 mini, it is thick enough (in a positive sense, not overly thick either) that I comfortably grip it without my fingers touching the screen unintentionally. I’d suggest visiting a store before giving up on the idea of them.
dijit 5y ago
The iPhone “mini” is comparable in size to the 6 also. It is very noticably bigger than the SE
- topranks 5y ago
  Noticeably smaller than the iPhone 6 from what I can recall. About half way between iPhone 5 and iPhone 6. Or at least feels that way.
  - dijit 5y ago
    I have been nerdsniped! I actually had a 6s- though I gave it away. But I still have the box and the iPhone 12 mini _does_ fit into the box, but it's exactly the same width as the 6s and approximately 3mm shorter. So it's still well into "iPhone 6" sizing territory, though it is smaller. I also have a 5. So I took some (awful) photos: https://imgur.com/a/wtDEyi8 https://imgur.com/a/wtDEyi8 (I had to use a really old android phone to take the photos, sadly)
tannhaeuser 5y ago
To be fair, the regular iPhone 12/13 isn't that bigger than the iPhone 12/13 mini. Compared to what's left of the classic iPhone form factor (6s/7/8/SE), the minis are a bit smaller and the regular ones a bit larger. They're thicker, though, and don't slip as easily into a pocket.
simonh 5y ago
Bearing in mind Apple sells 8 different form factors of iPhone, 10% sales seems viable. They can't all be the best seller. Even if you only count 'models' and not the different sized versions there are still 5 of them. In that context 10% of sales seems enough to justify doing a mini or SE version every other year at least.

ericpauley 5y ago

You may be referring to [1], which I believe showed up on here. This article seemed somewhat misleading to me as it mostly referred to the fact that apple had enough minis to meet demand until the next version, not that they were cancelling the product. For what it’s worth I know several people that are extremely pleased with the mini, and that are far more likely to upgrade because of it. [1] https://www.macrumors.com/2021/06/30/apple-ends-iphone-12-mini-production/ https://www.macrumors.com/2021/06/30/apple-ends-iphone-12-mi...

js2 5y ago
If Apple was going to nix the mini altogether, they wouldn't have just introduced the iPhone 13 mini.
- dlisboa 5y ago
  I don’t think that’s related. Apple goes through many iterations of something the market does not want before they axe it: Touch Bar, butterfly keys, USB-C only ports, etc. These could all have been axed after the first year and were not. Personally I rather like the minis and hope they don’t kill it, though I’m afraid that I might be in a minority. But it appears they sell more than other companies flagships, so maybe the market for it is underrated.

wruza 5y ago

I was about to buy mini, but compared to se 2020 it has no borders and a better camera. Camera I don’t care of, and no borders is actually a downgrade for me. I like to 1) be able to hold my phone and not touch the screen by a “thumb butt”, 2) reading something with its bottom side sitting on my belly, where shirt or blanket folds may cover the screen if it’s full-height. No borders is just a designer’s delusion to me. I have a friend with mini and after every other telegram message he tries to record an audio because the record button is exactly at the bottom right of the case when the keyboard is hidden. If Apple stops making SEs, I’ll have to search for a special border extending case.

Jtsummers 5y ago
I have the 13 mini, it is thick enough (in a positive sense, not overly thick either) that I comfortably grip it without my fingers touching the screen unintentionally. I’d suggest visiting a store before giving up on the idea of them.

dijit 5y ago

The iPhone “mini” is comparable in size to the 6 also. It is very noticably bigger than the SE

topranks 5y ago
Noticeably smaller than the iPhone 6 from what I can recall. About half way between iPhone 5 and iPhone 6. Or at least feels that way.
- dijit 5y ago
  I have been nerdsniped! I actually had a 6s- though I gave it away. But I still have the box and the iPhone 12 mini _does_ fit into the box, but it's exactly the same width as the 6s and approximately 3mm shorter. So it's still well into "iPhone 6" sizing territory, though it is smaller. I also have a 5. So I took some (awful) photos: https://imgur.com/a/wtDEyi8 https://imgur.com/a/wtDEyi8 (I had to use a really old android phone to take the photos, sadly)

tannhaeuser 5y ago

To be fair, the regular iPhone 12/13 isn't that bigger than the iPhone 12/13 mini. Compared to what's left of the classic iPhone form factor (6s/7/8/SE), the minis are a bit smaller and the regular ones a bit larger. They're thicker, though, and don't slip as easily into a pocket.

simonh 5y ago

Bearing in mind Apple sells 8 different form factors of iPhone, 10% sales seems viable. They can't all be the best seller. Even if you only count 'models' and not the different sized versions there are still 5 of them. In that context 10% of sales seems enough to justify doing a mini or SE version every other year at least.