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Yes, and it would be even more expensive in Germany. But in both countries the insurance covers normally 50% of it, wherever you go. If not all. (Other sickness

Yes, and it would be even more expensive in Germany. But in both countries the insurance covers normally 50% of it, wherever you go. If not all. (Other sickness are covered normally 80% if not entirely whatever insurance you have)

garmaine 5y ago
Would be much less in Taiwan for example. I don’t know exactly but I’d have to guess $50 USD? I’ve been to clinics that charged about $15-30 for a doctor visit (cash price as a foreigner—Taiwan has national healthcare but they can’t charge to that for me). ER would probably be double that. It’s not like you’re taking up a hospital bed. It’s a sew up and show you the door operation.
helloguillecl 5y ago
@garmaine I'm talking about the one the most prestigious clinic in South America in Santiago [1], and that's before insurance. I never paid that myself, because it was covered by the insurance. [1] https://www.clinicaalemana.cl/ https://www.clinicaalemana.cl/
nisa 5y ago
What are you talking about? As long as you are not private insured - which is not difficult to do usally - if you have a job you are insured (a percentage of your pay is used for insurance, if you study you are insured (90 eur) or you can join on your own for 200eur/month depending on your income if you are working on your own. You pay nothing for ER, 10eur/day for the hospital and a few eur for medication - but nothing even in the range for 50% or 80% dental is also covered to a large degree but if you want state of the art you have to pay the difference yourself - but you can also add a private insureance for that for 100 to 300eur/year to have everything covered. you can still fall through if you can't pay the monthly fee - but emergencies are also free even if you don't pay. private insurance can be expensive but should usally cover also everything.
- helloguillecl 5y ago
  Did you actually read my comments in this conversation? Are you aware that in Germany clinics have different prices than the ones you pay after insurance? I have always talked about prices before insurance, which is what I'm arguing looks completely out of place. I'm public insured in Germany and no, dental is not really covered, I had to pay my routine treatment last time at the praxis, and it was not cheap. Do you know that if you don't have insurance (which is however mandatory in Germany) you get an actual bill for the medical services?
  - nisa 5y ago
    I misunderstood your comment then. Sure what is billed is a different thing. Sorry. For the dentist: They often bill you for stuff that is covered but it lucrative to add something to the bill.
  - rostigerpudel 5y ago
    Yes, the price before insurance is generally higher, but reguated by the public insurance. See one of the price catalogs here: https://www.g-drg.de/aG-DRG-System_2021/Fallpauschalen-Katalog/Fallpauschalen-Katalog_2021 https://www.g-drg.de/aG-DRG-System_2021/Fallpauschalen-Katal... You do not need to pay extra for dental if you choose the most basic treatment. Most people like their dental work to look like their natural teeth which does not count as most basic. That is why you had to pay, but only the price difference to the basic treatment. And, of course, the doc likes to sell you some extra treatment (say "professional tooth cleaning") which will make her/him some extra money. Same for glasses. The most basic option is free. If you don't like the coke bottle bottoms then you will have to cover the difference yourself.

garmaine 5y ago

Would be much less in Taiwan for example. I don’t know exactly but I’d have to guess $50 USD? I’ve been to clinics that charged about $15-30 for a doctor visit (cash price as a foreigner—Taiwan has national healthcare but they can’t charge to that for me). ER would probably be double that. It’s not like you’re taking up a hospital bed. It’s a sew up and show you the door operation.

helloguillecl 5y ago

@garmaine I'm talking about the one the most prestigious clinic in South America in Santiago [1], and that's before insurance. I never paid that myself, because it was covered by the insurance. [1] https://www.clinicaalemana.cl/ https://www.clinicaalemana.cl/

nisa 5y ago

What are you talking about? As long as you are not private insured - which is not difficult to do usally - if you have a job you are insured (a percentage of your pay is used for insurance, if you study you are insured (90 eur) or you can join on your own for 200eur/month depending on your income if you are working on your own. You pay nothing for ER, 10eur/day for the hospital and a few eur for medication - but nothing even in the range for 50% or 80% dental is also covered to a large degree but if you want state of the art you have to pay the difference yourself - but you can also add a private insureance for that for 100 to 300eur/year to have everything covered. you can still fall through if you can't pay the monthly fee - but emergencies are also free even if you don't pay. private insurance can be expensive but should usally cover also everything.

helloguillecl 5y ago
Did you actually read my comments in this conversation? Are you aware that in Germany clinics have different prices than the ones you pay after insurance? I have always talked about prices before insurance, which is what I'm arguing looks completely out of place. I'm public insured in Germany and no, dental is not really covered, I had to pay my routine treatment last time at the praxis, and it was not cheap. Do you know that if you don't have insurance (which is however mandatory in Germany) you get an actual bill for the medical services?
- nisa 5y ago
  I misunderstood your comment then. Sure what is billed is a different thing. Sorry. For the dentist: They often bill you for stuff that is covered but it lucrative to add something to the bill.
- rostigerpudel 5y ago
  Yes, the price before insurance is generally higher, but reguated by the public insurance. See one of the price catalogs here: https://www.g-drg.de/aG-DRG-System_2021/Fallpauschalen-Katalog/Fallpauschalen-Katalog_2021 https://www.g-drg.de/aG-DRG-System_2021/Fallpauschalen-Katal... You do not need to pay extra for dental if you choose the most basic treatment. Most people like their dental work to look like their natural teeth which does not count as most basic. That is why you had to pay, but only the price difference to the basic treatment. And, of course, the doc likes to sell you some extra treatment (say "professional tooth cleaning") which will make her/him some extra money. Same for glasses. The most basic option is free. If you don't like the coke bottle bottoms then you will have to cover the difference yourself.