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I ask people who say they don't belive in hell whether they have heard and understand the Russian sense of humor, as when you do, there's no other place it coul

I ask people who say they don't belive in hell whether they have heard and understand the Russian sense of humor, as when you do, there's no other place it could have come from. na zdarovye my friends! Joking about the annhialiation of cities of people, and potentially the species, is dark - but to call it merely "problematic" as though there were some solution to said problem instead of recognizing the existential horror it represented through humor, seems like an ambitious use of the word. There are some things only the involuntary reaction of humor can express.

dmz73 5y ago
Life in the west can be much more horrible for a lot of people than life in USSR was for most but dark humor is very mild and looked down upon. I would say cultural differences play much bigger role. Whose life is worse in the west? Homeless, outlaws (drug addicts, prostitutes), arrested illegal immigrants, some aboriginal communities. I am wrong about that? I lived in a communist country as a child and young adult. Life in the west can be better...or much worse.
- simonh 5y ago
  The USSR had homeless, drug addicts, prostitutes and marginalised communities too. It had all the same problems, plus a whole lot more. Admittedly, there were a lot fewer people outside trying to get in though. I'll give you that.
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  - dmz73 5y ago
    I did not live in USSR so I can't say how many of each they had but the country I lived in also had all of those and I can say there was and order of magnitude less of them than what you see now in the equivalently sized (population wise) west country. You are also correct that many of us wanted to live like the TV stars we saw lived in the western TV shows and not many people wanted to cross to the east. But if you think that life in the east was all horror all the time or most of the time or event 1/1000 of the time then you have been brainwashed even more than what we were. No one wants to go back to the political system of USSR but imagining that life for most people was horrible is just naive. Not understanding the circumstances and motivations of your opponents is a mistake that will cost us all dearly.

dmz73 5y ago

Life in the west can be much more horrible for a lot of people than life in USSR was for most but dark humor is very mild and looked down upon. I would say cultural differences play much bigger role. Whose life is worse in the west? Homeless, outlaws (drug addicts, prostitutes), arrested illegal immigrants, some aboriginal communities. I am wrong about that? I lived in a communist country as a child and young adult. Life in the west can be better...or much worse.

simonh 5y ago
The USSR had homeless, drug addicts, prostitutes and marginalised communities too. It had all the same problems, plus a whole lot more. Admittedly, there were a lot fewer people outside trying to get in though. I'll give you that.
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- dmz73 5y ago
  I did not live in USSR so I can't say how many of each they had but the country I lived in also had all of those and I can say there was and order of magnitude less of them than what you see now in the equivalently sized (population wise) west country. You are also correct that many of us wanted to live like the TV stars we saw lived in the western TV shows and not many people wanted to cross to the east. But if you think that life in the east was all horror all the time or most of the time or event 1/1000 of the time then you have been brainwashed even more than what we were. No one wants to go back to the political system of USSR but imagining that life for most people was horrible is just naive. Not understanding the circumstances and motivations of your opponents is a mistake that will cost us all dearly.