Exactly. That site I linked has a lot of examples like that. But just more intuitively, imagining that committee mark-up sessions have lobbyists sitting in the

Exactly. That site I linked has a lot of examples like that. But just more intuitively, imagining that committee mark-up sessions have lobbyists sitting in the back reporting almost every single move, decision, word, etc., does not make me excited to want to be in Congress. For me, I used to believe that it was the most deliberative body in the world, and yet, with the current over-the-shouldering, I don't know how people deliberate. But I think we can restore it, if we want to. I think we can get caught in the trap of wanting others to not manipulate Congress into doing what they want them to do, but wanting us to be able to manipulate them to do what we want them to do. Personally, I'd rather elect people who I think are smart, talented, kind, and considerate, and let them make the best decisions they can.