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PhD drones get paid tho. Einsteins not so much. There are a lot of invisible Einsteins stocking shelves at Walmart. This is why we need UBI.

ryan93 5y ago
No way there are lots of people who excelled at math stocking shelves
- teorema 5y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Prasher https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Prasher
- beenBoutIT 5y ago
  What about in prison? There may well be Einsteins locked up in our overcrowded prisons.
- Volundr 5y ago
  I don't see why not. I know someone who is quite a bit smarter than me, and was definitely more dedicated in high school, yet spent decades working security (not Walmart, but not rocket science either) and 1-2 other jobs to pay their mortgage because their parents couldn't support them through college like mine could (and numerous other factors that set them back). While they have now gotten a degree and a better job I essentially got a 20-year head start on them. Despite what people like to believe, even in America the single biggest predictor of a child's success is their parent's income.
chrisco255 5y ago
Sorry, no. There are not a lot of Einsteins working at Walmart. If UBI is all you need to produce more Einsteins then communism would have won.
- avmich 5y ago
  Communism had - and has - their share of Einsteins. It's not enough for communism to win. Especially in today's world, where Einstein from a communist country moves elsewhere early on.
  - chrisco255 5y ago
    Communism did not produce more Einsteins than capitalism did. It arguably produced less. But regardless, OP is arguing that there are countless people currently working in retail who, if but for a $1000 a month UBI payment, would be producing groundbreaking innovations in science and technology. My point is merely that this experiment (of government providing for basic needs) has already been tried countless times and does not yield more geniuses.
    - swayvil 5y ago
      Consider open source software and the scientific enlightenment. 2 examples of what smart people with free time can achieve. More free time is obviously the thing to do.

ryan93 5y ago

No way there are lots of people who excelled at math stocking shelves

teorema 5y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Prasher https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Prasher
beenBoutIT 5y ago
What about in prison? There may well be Einsteins locked up in our overcrowded prisons.
Volundr 5y ago
I don't see why not. I know someone who is quite a bit smarter than me, and was definitely more dedicated in high school, yet spent decades working security (not Walmart, but not rocket science either) and 1-2 other jobs to pay their mortgage because their parents couldn't support them through college like mine could (and numerous other factors that set them back). While they have now gotten a degree and a better job I essentially got a 20-year head start on them. Despite what people like to believe, even in America the single biggest predictor of a child's success is their parent's income.

chrisco255 5y ago

Sorry, no. There are not a lot of Einsteins working at Walmart. If UBI is all you need to produce more Einsteins then communism would have won.

avmich 5y ago
Communism had - and has - their share of Einsteins. It's not enough for communism to win. Especially in today's world, where Einstein from a communist country moves elsewhere early on.
- chrisco255 5y ago
  Communism did not produce more Einsteins than capitalism did. It arguably produced less. But regardless, OP is arguing that there are countless people currently working in retail who, if but for a $1000 a month UBI payment, would be producing groundbreaking innovations in science and technology. My point is merely that this experiment (of government providing for basic needs) has already been tried countless times and does not yield more geniuses.
  - swayvil 5y ago
    Consider open source software and the scientific enlightenment. 2 examples of what smart people with free time can achieve. More free time is obviously the thing to do.