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I think its always been about money and time, effectively this is what happens: - A lack of people able to make sustainable time commits to the cause means eve
by no_wizard 5y ago
I think its always been about money and time, effectively this is what happens:
- A lack of people able to make sustainable time commits to the cause means even with a fair amount of money, you could lose out in numbers (voting or otherwise)
- A lack of funding to sustain the cause, even if you have members that can make the time commitments, and importantly, not enough money to have professional lobbyists working your cause singularly
Other lobbying organizations, typically with corporate funds, don't have either of those problems. Corporate friendly organizations like the one's Amazon employs (or employs lobbyists directly, not an uncommon practice either) have hefty sums of money to keep lobbying, 24/7.
Some of this could be fixed with reform, of course, at least on paper. For instance, removing term limits allows representatives to bulk up on expertise on issues, which is actually makes them more resistant to outside influence, all things being equal.
The other thing that has gutted this is organizations that do exist are either always scrambling for money, like the EFF, ACLU etc (yes they have money, but compared to corporate lobby organizations, they have a finite amount of donors they can "call action" to, without hitting a wall), or have been gutted in other ways. One forgotten aspect about labor unions, is they did act as an effective lobbying force in politics for workers rights and other causes[0], sometimes not even labor related directly.
Even on a local scale, you have incumbents who can fall back to their local network of people, and challengers have to build this over and over again. Thats the fundamental problem.
I think systematic reform would be the actual long term solution, but its hard to change a system that is primarily concerned with perpetuating itself.
[0]: https://exhibitions.lib.umd.edu/unions/political/environment https://exhibitions.lib.umd.edu/unions/political/environment
- inetknght 5y ago> removing term limits allows representatives to bulk up on expertise on issues, which is actually makes them more resistant to outside influence, all things being equal. How has that gone for Senators? Not well at all. No term limits there has engendered some seriously malicious Senators.
- gretch 5y agoRegardless of malice, it makes them incompetent in the world that younger people live in. For example, I would expect the vast majority of senators (and other politicians) are completely detached from how people use and want to use the Internet. That’s why we have moments like Clintons “Pokémon Go to the polls”… despite being the most popular mobile game of all time at the time, completely miss the zeitgeist.
- cookie_monsta 5y agohttps://youtu.be/9VgwxKW0J6I https://youtu.be/9VgwxKW0J6I
- no_wizard 5y agoAll things aren’t equal either. Key aspect of the idea is barring any other meaningful difference. I should expand in these points but this one thing is not the only thing that matters to make positive change. Our voting system using ranked choice voting and having more parliamentary style elect would help tremendously too
- SyzygistSix 5y agoSure, but that has to do just as much to do with voter apathy. The primary elections are almost always a ghost town. And with the advent of the internet, it is easier and less expensive to run for office than ever.
- AnthonyMouse 5y ago> One forgotten aspect about labor unions, is they did act as an effective lobbying force in politics for workers rights and other causes[0], sometimes not even labor related directly. I'm not sure why this never caught on from the consumer side. Something like Costco, but a coop that uses 1% of revenues for lobbying on behalf of consumers seems like it could be pretty popular. Is there a law against it or something?