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They don't make them for the US anymore. The best you can do is buy a "fleet model" truck or something, but its still going to have a host of electronics and p

They don't make them for the US anymore. The best you can do is buy a "fleet model" truck or something, but its still going to have a host of electronics and probably a GPS and cellular radio inside. Fleet models are designed to last, as not to anger large-scale fleet customers. Yeah, you can find cars with more knobs and less touch screens, but in most cases, those analog-appearing knobs are just digital input devices to an (eg for Honda since at least 2018) low-end, cheaply-made Android device. If you're sincere, your best bet is to buy a year and model with something that still has plenty of spare parts available (eg. 2000 era Honda, Toyota trucks, etc)

silisili 5y ago
Right on. I have a 2019 work truck. It has electric locks/windows/mirrors, Bluetooth, and cellular modem/onstar. It's definitely not bare bones, but I like that the screen isn't really needed for anything, and has knobs for every control.
kgermino 5y ago
I'm pretty sure my 2019 Honda's HVAC knobs are physically connected to the flaps they control. You can feel/hear the dampers moving with the knobs.
- runjake 5y ago
  The dampers might be, but the system is still controlled by Android running on a puny OMAP processor in the 2019 Fit. I'd paste the link to the technician's manual, but it's not public, though you can find it on less than ethical places. A fun practice is to pull the fuse on the Android unit and try using your car. It will work, but it's... unpleasant.
  - kgermino 5y ago
    Interesting. I wonder why - it seems like more trouble than it’s worth. The controls aren’t complicated: a button to turn A/C compressor on and off, one for the rear defogger, a mixing valve for temp and a four notch thing for fan speed.
    - runjake 5y ago
      You're preaching to the choir. It does seem more trouble than it's worth. PS: If you ever get the urge to root the Android device or install Honda Hack, don't bother on a car you rely on. It will slow down, crash, and possibly break everything and require a full factory reset. The Android hardware installed is so puny, it can't handle more than what's factory.
  - mixmastamyk 5y ago
    Sure as hell don't want Android near a car.

silisili 5y ago

Right on. I have a 2019 work truck. It has electric locks/windows/mirrors, Bluetooth, and cellular modem/onstar. It's definitely not bare bones, but I like that the screen isn't really needed for anything, and has knobs for every control.

kgermino 5y ago

I'm pretty sure my 2019 Honda's HVAC knobs are physically connected to the flaps they control. You can feel/hear the dampers moving with the knobs.

runjake 5y ago
The dampers might be, but the system is still controlled by Android running on a puny OMAP processor in the 2019 Fit. I'd paste the link to the technician's manual, but it's not public, though you can find it on less than ethical places. A fun practice is to pull the fuse on the Android unit and try using your car. It will work, but it's... unpleasant.
- kgermino 5y ago
  Interesting. I wonder why - it seems like more trouble than it’s worth. The controls aren’t complicated: a button to turn A/C compressor on and off, one for the rear defogger, a mixing valve for temp and a four notch thing for fan speed.
  - runjake 5y ago
    You're preaching to the choir. It does seem more trouble than it's worth. PS: If you ever get the urge to root the Android device or install Honda Hack, don't bother on a car you rely on. It will slow down, crash, and possibly break everything and require a full factory reset. The Android hardware installed is so puny, it can't handle more than what's factory.
- mixmastamyk 5y ago
  Sure as hell don't want Android near a car.