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It’s absolutely a failure on Harris part. It’s fairly obvious that expecting someone to exile themselves from public view for the rest of their life is absurd

by zepto 5y ago

It’s absolutely a failure on Harris part. It’s fairly obvious that expecting someone to exile themselves from public view for the rest of their life is absurd and unreasonable. Even if DeBoer said he would do that, it doesn’t mean it’s reasonable for Harris to expect it. If Harris thinks 12 months is not enough, he can say that.

watwut 5y ago
That is what DeBoer promised back when he felt guilty and did not wanted Harris to sue him. Which he in fact could do. And maybe should do. Now DeBoer is actively repeatedly bringing Harris thing up, doing opposite of getting away from Harris life.
- zepto 5y ago
  DeBoer says he’s bringing the Harris thing up because other people keep using it to attack him. He can’t control what other people do, and if they keep bringing it up, it’s not unreasonable for him to respond.
chipotle_coyote 5y ago
>> That you had to take the extra 60 seconds to follow the links is not a failure on Harris's part. > It's absolutely a failure on Harris's part. Let me be clearer: Harris stated exactly what you said he didn't state. You either failed to click the link or dismissed it. That you do not agree with what Harris said does not mean he didn't say it. > If Harris thinks 12 months is not enough, he can say that. It's obvious he thinks that, and I'm pretty sure you know that, even if he didn't use those literal words. You're implicitly criticizing Harris for an ungenerous reading of deBoer's commitment ("obviously it's absurd and unreasonable to expect he really meant 'permanently' when he wrote 'permanently'"), which I don't object to -- but I do object to you not in turn extending the same generosity to Harris. For whatever it's worth, I doubt "permanent exile" is reasonable, either. But barely a year later deBoer was writing for the Washington Post and the New York Times, publishing a best-selling book, and starting a newsletter that now brings in a six-figure income. Barely two years on and deBoer is writing, in so many words, "I've already apologized, why won't all you cancel-culture jerks leave me alone". So, yeah, sorry: if I was Harris, I would probably be tempted to make a few tweets questioning just how sincere deBoer was about the whole apology thing.

by zepto 5y ago

watwut 5y ago

That is what DeBoer promised back when he felt guilty and did not wanted Harris to sue him. Which he in fact could do. And maybe should do. Now DeBoer is actively repeatedly bringing Harris thing up, doing opposite of getting away from Harris life.

zepto 5y ago
DeBoer says he’s bringing the Harris thing up because other people keep using it to attack him. He can’t control what other people do, and if they keep bringing it up, it’s not unreasonable for him to respond.

chipotle_coyote 5y ago

>> That you had to take the extra 60 seconds to follow the links is not a failure on Harris's part. > It's absolutely a failure on Harris's part. Let me be clearer: Harris stated exactly what you said he didn't state. You either failed to click the link or dismissed it. That you do not agree with what Harris said does not mean he didn't say it. > If Harris thinks 12 months is not enough, he can say that. It's obvious he thinks that, and I'm pretty sure you know that, even if he didn't use those literal words. You're implicitly criticizing Harris for an ungenerous reading of deBoer's commitment ("obviously it's absurd and unreasonable to expect he really meant 'permanently' when he wrote 'permanently'"), which I don't object to -- but I do object to you not in turn extending the same generosity to Harris. For whatever it's worth, I doubt "permanent exile" is reasonable, either. But barely a year later deBoer was writing for the Washington Post and the New York Times, publishing a best-selling book, and starting a newsletter that now brings in a six-figure income. Barely two years on and deBoer is writing, in so many words, "I've already apologized, why won't all you cancel-culture jerks leave me alone". So, yeah, sorry: if I was Harris, I would probably be tempted to make a few tweets questioning just how sincere deBoer was about the whole apology thing.