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Weinstein is either going senile or running a very advanced grifting operation to increase his clout on social media. He presumably did some advanced work in th

Weinstein is either going senile or running a very advanced grifting operation to increase his clout on social media. He presumably did some advanced work in the past but that is no indicator of sanity. Sir Michael Atiyah towards the end of his life developed obvious cognitive deficiencies. [1] 1: https://www.simonsfoundation.org/2009/07/15/michael-atiyah/ https://www.simonsfoundation.org/2009/07/15/michael-atiyah/

Jackpillar 5y ago
He's a grifter through and through.
nescioquid 5y ago
I've watched several hours of conversation with Eric Weinstein. He talked at length about the academic cabal to keep him out of the "in group". I imagine Weinstein will repay Nguyen's efforts by attacking him as a monster from the old cabal. I think I know what you mean about the "grift"; I've wondered if Eric wasn't hurt by his little brother having more notoriety. Given Nguyen's remarks on Eric's reluctance to actually produce a paper (despite talking up the idea in popular venues) and his indecision about whether Eric is an academic or an entertainer probably belies a similar suspicion. Of course, if the paper were solid, we probably wouldn't be wondering about this at all (assuming, of course, that Nguyen isn't a nasty monster from the cabal).
- holonomically 5y ago
  I don't know much about his work but I know he sometimes makes remarks that are paranoid, contradictory, and nonsensical when properly analyzed. This indicates to me that he either knows that such remarks drive a lot of engagement on social media or he doesn't. Either way, I think people should stop paying attention to whatever he's saying since it is often neither insightful nor productive in any meaningful way.
  - loceng 5y ago
    Do you have a link/timestamp to a video with such a reaction? I've seen him get frustrated or bored and then challenge people to try to think harder or differently, more deeply. "Either way, I think people should stop paying attention to whatever he's saying since it is often neither insightful nor productive in any meaningful way." Should we do the same with you? How ridiculous.
    - holonomically 5y ago
      You can peruse his Twitter feed. It's full of nonsensical statements. I like to think what I write makes some modicum of sense and when I do make claims that don't make sense then someone would be willing to say so and explain why. Weinstein put out a mathematical paper with disclaimers that it is for purely entertainment purposes. If that's not nonsensical and contradictory then I don't know what is. This is why I don't pay attention to him. He's not a serious and sincere person because a serious person wouldn't publish a mathematical paper with disclaimers about it being nothing more than entertainment. So his actions make him look like either a troll or someone going senile. In both cases it doesn't make sense to pay attention to someone like that. He also likes to encourage conspiratorial thinking among his followers which is again a sign of someone that is not operating in good faith and trying to achieve any positive outcomes. It makes him seem like someone that enjoys stoking fear and paranoia in order to grow his clout on social media. If you have references for any worthwhile work that he has produced then I'm actually curious to see it because whatever I've seen from him indicates what I already wrote.
loceng 5y ago
Or he's gauging, no pun intended, the audience and moving forward at a pace that's safe with the crowd/mob - the crowd who overall on average is less competent than the top minds who'd be able to understand what he's suggesting.
- holonomically 5y ago
  Can you point to something useful or insightful from him?
  - loceng 5y ago
    You can peruse his Twitter feed. It's full of sensical statements. Reciprocal same level of effort into citing my claims as you, re: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29281850 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29281850
    - holonomically 5y ago
      If someone reads this without knowing the author, what opinion do you think they would form of him or her? > The Law of The Gated Institutional Narrative: Every story that starts out to be about some particular topic, once reported, instantly comes to be about perseveration, framing, coordination, gaslighting & narrative. > In my own opinion, this is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
      - loceng 5y ago
        What if someone picks up any long book and picks a random page to read then a few sentences in it, without bothering to try to understand the context - and if not understanding it they don't bother exploring further and just assume the person they're reading must not be useful or insightful - and instead try to paint them in possibly the worst light possible as "going senile or running a very advanced grifting operation to increase his clout on social media" - as you said earlier about Eric?
        5y ago
kleene_op 5y ago
> Weinstein is either going senile or running a very advanced grifting operation to increase his clout on social media. I think he exists in a superposition of both.
- holonomically 5y ago
  Only when he's not tweeting. When he tweets his wave function always collapses to the senile eigenstate.

Jackpillar 5y ago

He's a grifter through and through.

nescioquid 5y ago

I've watched several hours of conversation with Eric Weinstein. He talked at length about the academic cabal to keep him out of the "in group". I imagine Weinstein will repay Nguyen's efforts by attacking him as a monster from the old cabal. I think I know what you mean about the "grift"; I've wondered if Eric wasn't hurt by his little brother having more notoriety. Given Nguyen's remarks on Eric's reluctance to actually produce a paper (despite talking up the idea in popular venues) and his indecision about whether Eric is an academic or an entertainer probably belies a similar suspicion. Of course, if the paper were solid, we probably wouldn't be wondering about this at all (assuming, of course, that Nguyen isn't a nasty monster from the cabal).

holonomically 5y ago
I don't know much about his work but I know he sometimes makes remarks that are paranoid, contradictory, and nonsensical when properly analyzed. This indicates to me that he either knows that such remarks drive a lot of engagement on social media or he doesn't. Either way, I think people should stop paying attention to whatever he's saying since it is often neither insightful nor productive in any meaningful way.
- loceng 5y ago
  Do you have a link/timestamp to a video with such a reaction? I've seen him get frustrated or bored and then challenge people to try to think harder or differently, more deeply. "Either way, I think people should stop paying attention to whatever he's saying since it is often neither insightful nor productive in any meaningful way." Should we do the same with you? How ridiculous.
  - holonomically 5y ago
    You can peruse his Twitter feed. It's full of nonsensical statements. I like to think what I write makes some modicum of sense and when I do make claims that don't make sense then someone would be willing to say so and explain why. Weinstein put out a mathematical paper with disclaimers that it is for purely entertainment purposes. If that's not nonsensical and contradictory then I don't know what is. This is why I don't pay attention to him. He's not a serious and sincere person because a serious person wouldn't publish a mathematical paper with disclaimers about it being nothing more than entertainment. So his actions make him look like either a troll or someone going senile. In both cases it doesn't make sense to pay attention to someone like that. He also likes to encourage conspiratorial thinking among his followers which is again a sign of someone that is not operating in good faith and trying to achieve any positive outcomes. It makes him seem like someone that enjoys stoking fear and paranoia in order to grow his clout on social media. If you have references for any worthwhile work that he has produced then I'm actually curious to see it because whatever I've seen from him indicates what I already wrote.

loceng 5y ago

Or he's gauging, no pun intended, the audience and moving forward at a pace that's safe with the crowd/mob - the crowd who overall on average is less competent than the top minds who'd be able to understand what he's suggesting.

holonomically 5y ago
Can you point to something useful or insightful from him?
- loceng 5y ago
  You can peruse his Twitter feed. It's full of sensical statements. Reciprocal same level of effort into citing my claims as you, re: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29281850 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29281850
  - holonomically 5y ago
    If someone reads this without knowing the author, what opinion do you think they would form of him or her? > The Law of The Gated Institutional Narrative: Every story that starts out to be about some particular topic, once reported, instantly comes to be about perseveration, framing, coordination, gaslighting & narrative. > In my own opinion, this is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
    - loceng 5y ago
      What if someone picks up any long book and picks a random page to read then a few sentences in it, without bothering to try to understand the context - and if not understanding it they don't bother exploring further and just assume the person they're reading must not be useful or insightful - and instead try to paint them in possibly the worst light possible as "going senile or running a very advanced grifting operation to increase his clout on social media" - as you said earlier about Eric?
      - 5y ago

kleene_op 5y ago

> Weinstein is either going senile or running a very advanced grifting operation to increase his clout on social media. I think he exists in a superposition of both.

holonomically 5y ago
Only when he's not tweeting. When he tweets his wave function always collapses to the senile eigenstate.