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Anyway here you go https://thenftbay.org/description.html https://thenftbay.org/description.html https://thenftbay.org/ https://thenftbay.org/ You can have al

Anyway here you go https://thenftbay.org/description.html https://thenftbay.org/description.html https://thenftbay.org/ https://thenftbay.org/ You can have all the NFTs in existence without having to wear out your right click button. We can all be "rich"

firloop 5y ago
Turns out that torrent is mostly full of zeroes: https://github.com/ghuntley/thenftbay.org/issues/9 https://github.com/ghuntley/thenftbay.org/issues/9
- NikolaeVarius 5y ago
  Issue was deleted.
- notpachet 5y ago
  Probably still figuratively the case even after that issue is resolved...
darawk 5y ago
https://www.moma.org/collection/works/79802 https://www.moma.org/collection/works/79802 MOMA is going to be so mad when they find out Starry Night is worthless now.
- jjulius 5y ago
  You're talking about a piece of art that exists on a canvas, with its own bumps/grooves, versus a photo/scan of that art. There is still only one Starry Night in it's exact, original form despite us being able to pull it up on Google Images. It will age, and change with age. A .jpg NFT can literally be saved/copied in it's exact original form an infinite number of times.
  - darawk 5y ago
    So, you're saying that those exact bumps and grooves are the repository of value for Starry Night? That if only we could perfectly replicate those grooves, then it'd have no value?
moolcool 5y ago
He links that very site in his third paragraph
015a 5y ago
Yet, are you rich after torrenting that? Of course not. There's the disconnect. The phantom in the system that some people aren't groking; the leap of faith. Why do (a vast minority of) the NFTs in that torrent still have value, despite the torrent existing? Why is Disney worth $275B despite all of their movies hitting The Pirate Bay immediately upon their release? I can Google Image search pictures of the Mona Lisa with zero effort. Thus, the original is worthless? I'd ask detractors of the crypto/NFT movement really think critically about those questions. Not just for minutes and hours; not just for the time it takes to bash Reply and say "lol right click save as". Read up about the history of money; integrate ideas about megacorporation control over our government and economic systems, human behavior and nature, and what the concept of ownership really means. I can't refute all the arguments against in one comment, and some are legitimate. But I'll leave you with one thought which fundamentally changed my viewpoint on NFTs: isn't it beautiful that you can right click save as on an NFT? That this system exists which, theoretically, enables creators to see compensation for their work, one consumer of that work to feel ownership/responsibility, and the population at large to enjoy it for free?
- jjulius 5y ago
  > Why is Disney worth $275B despite all of their movies hitting The Pirate Bay immediately upon their release? Merchandise, theme parks, movie tickets, cruises, live shows (eg "Disney on Ice"), and so on. You're typically not going to find an HD quality pirated movie the second it hits theaters, only once it's released to the home or sent out as a screener. That's only a tiny slice of their diversified pie. For the record, I'm not usually one to defend Disney as a corporation. > I can Google Image search pictures of the Mona Lisa with zero effort. Thus, the original is worthless? It's not worthless. :) The original is the original physical painting that you can touch and feel, and your Google Image results are a bunch of pixels of photos/scans of the painting. On the other hand, if you create an original .jpg and sell it as an NFT, every other .jpg of that NFT is literally identical to the original, something you cannot achieve with your Mona Lisa comparison.
  - axbytg 5y ago
    "NFT is literally identical to the original" Youre so close here! Literally identical except for the fact that people are willing to pay millions of dollars for one, and not the other! Perhaps there is something else that makes them different too.....

firloop 5y ago

Turns out that torrent is mostly full of zeroes: https://github.com/ghuntley/thenftbay.org/issues/9 https://github.com/ghuntley/thenftbay.org/issues/9

NikolaeVarius 5y ago
Issue was deleted.
notpachet 5y ago
Probably still figuratively the case even after that issue is resolved...

darawk 5y ago

https://www.moma.org/collection/works/79802 https://www.moma.org/collection/works/79802 MOMA is going to be so mad when they find out Starry Night is worthless now.

jjulius 5y ago
You're talking about a piece of art that exists on a canvas, with its own bumps/grooves, versus a photo/scan of that art. There is still only one Starry Night in it's exact, original form despite us being able to pull it up on Google Images. It will age, and change with age. A .jpg NFT can literally be saved/copied in it's exact original form an infinite number of times.
- darawk 5y ago
  So, you're saying that those exact bumps and grooves are the repository of value for Starry Night? That if only we could perfectly replicate those grooves, then it'd have no value?

moolcool 5y ago

He links that very site in his third paragraph

015a 5y ago

Yet, are you rich after torrenting that? Of course not. There's the disconnect. The phantom in the system that some people aren't groking; the leap of faith. Why do (a vast minority of) the NFTs in that torrent still have value, despite the torrent existing? Why is Disney worth $275B despite all of their movies hitting The Pirate Bay immediately upon their release? I can Google Image search pictures of the Mona Lisa with zero effort. Thus, the original is worthless? I'd ask detractors of the crypto/NFT movement really think critically about those questions. Not just for minutes and hours; not just for the time it takes to bash Reply and say "lol right click save as". Read up about the history of money; integrate ideas about megacorporation control over our government and economic systems, human behavior and nature, and what the concept of ownership really means. I can't refute all the arguments against in one comment, and some are legitimate. But I'll leave you with one thought which fundamentally changed my viewpoint on NFTs: isn't it beautiful that you can right click save as on an NFT? That this system exists which, theoretically, enables creators to see compensation for their work, one consumer of that work to feel ownership/responsibility, and the population at large to enjoy it for free?

jjulius 5y ago
> Why is Disney worth $275B despite all of their movies hitting The Pirate Bay immediately upon their release? Merchandise, theme parks, movie tickets, cruises, live shows (eg "Disney on Ice"), and so on. You're typically not going to find an HD quality pirated movie the second it hits theaters, only once it's released to the home or sent out as a screener. That's only a tiny slice of their diversified pie. For the record, I'm not usually one to defend Disney as a corporation. > I can Google Image search pictures of the Mona Lisa with zero effort. Thus, the original is worthless? It's not worthless. :) The original is the original physical painting that you can touch and feel, and your Google Image results are a bunch of pixels of photos/scans of the painting. On the other hand, if you create an original .jpg and sell it as an NFT, every other .jpg of that NFT is literally identical to the original, something you cannot achieve with your Mona Lisa comparison.
- axbytg 5y ago
  "NFT is literally identical to the original" Youre so close here! Literally identical except for the fact that people are willing to pay millions of dollars for one, and not the other! Perhaps there is something else that makes them different too.....