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I agree that space elevators are very unlikely in the next few centuries. But arguing that Starship achieves basically the same thing seems wrong to me. Stars
by mercutio2 5y ago
I agree that space elevators are very unlikely in the next few centuries.
But arguing that Starship achieves basically the same thing seems wrong to me.
Starship is subject to the rocket equation. That means all but a few percent of its launch mass is rocket fuel.
Space hooks of all sorts require some transfer of energy, but the idea is it's on the order of magnitude of the actual potential energy gained.
Edit: It strikes me as implausible that we'll get unobtainium with sufficient material strength to build a space elevator without accompanying superconductors run through the elevator structure, but when I ran the numbers, current lithium ion batteries are about 1/60th of the energy density of mass moved from the highest equatorial point on earth to geosync orbit.
Not so very different from the rocket equation, you're right, if we decide there's no way to convey energy through the space elevator.
It's all sci-fi anyway!
- perl4ever 5y agoHow about an electric rail gun in a tunnel up a mountain? Has Musk ever said that's what the Boring company is going to do some day?
- panick21_ 5y agoA mass driver makes sense on the moon or Mars potentially, unlikely to make sense on earth. Even if you assume a sufficient good mass driver, you still need a rocket upper stage. And those mass drivers would always target the same orbit. You really have to construct a very specific scenario to beat reusable rockets anytime soon. On the moon if you want to mass deliver ice blocks to a specific fuel station it makes some sense.