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I remember this a few years ago...I should get back into it.

tut-urut-utut 5y ago
No, you won't go back into it! If you remember it, and used it a few years ago, but then forgot about it until some random HN post mentioned it, it's not something with persistent utility (addiction) to you. EDIT: I see I got understood in a way I didn't intend to. Didn't want to say anything about parent, just pointing out that mentioned platform itself lack addictiveness to be considered a good (successful) social network. Or is this one of the "feel good, we all should be using it" kind of stuff, where people force themselves to use it, because it's "right thing to do", but it feels more like a chore than joy, something like gym.
- jedimastert 5y ago
  I'm in a very different place than I was a few years ago.
  - e40 5y ago
    I know this is the innernets, but I always get a kick out of responses like the GP's. Wow.
    - mistermann 5y ago
      The human mind's ability to see into the future based on sparse data is a fascinating phenomenon, and fairly ubiquitous.
      - LocalH 5y ago
        The human mind's ability to incorrectly apply that foresight to others is equally ubiquitous, however.
        Shared404 5y ago
        And the human mind's ability to then use said "insight" to demean others, is also unfortunately ubiquitous.
        mistermann 5y ago
        demean: cause a severe loss in the dignity of and respect for (someone or something). Is it really that bad? It's plausible, but I'm skeptical. Regardless, it is surely suboptimal. I wonder if there are more optimal approaches than "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" (my Mom's advice)....can you think of any?
        Shared404 5y ago
        > Is it really that bad? It's plausible, but I'm skeptical. Demean was too strong a word, I need to follow my own advice better :). > Regardless, it is surely suboptimal. I wonder if there are more optimal approaches than "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" (my Mom's advice)....can you think of any? The three gates[0] are what I try (and admittedly fail miserably) to implement, though not in their original form. I generally try for "Is it true", "Is it useful", "Is it kind" - in that order of precedence if they can not all be met. [0] Is it true, is it necessary, is it kind.
        mistermann 5y ago
        I like it. I would evaluate it thusly: a) Is it true? I would say: overwhelmingly. b) Is it necessary? In an absolute sense: no. In a relative sense (say, if one has a specific goal in mind): Certainly maybe, but I would predict: Extremely Likely. > Is it kind. I suspect not. But then, I think HN'ers can have thick skin when required (say, if you are trying to optimize The System that we all live within).
        mistermann 5y ago
        Hmmmm, not sure I understand?
- Shared404 5y ago
  > persistent utility (addiction) That's... not a good definition of persistent utility. My pantry has quite a lot of persistent utility, but I'm reasonably sure I'm not addicted to it. Edit: >Didn't want to say anything about parent, I apologize for my misreading. >just pointing out that mentioned platform itself lack addictiveness to be considered a good (successful) social network. I think that depends on the definition of successful. I quite like the idea of calm technology. I think it's possible to have a non-addictive social network which lets you socialize without feeling compelled to use it. It wouldn't be for everyone, but wouldn't be for no one. >Or is this one of the "feel good, we all should be using it" kind of stuff, where people force themselves to use it, because it's "right thing to do", but it feels more like a chore than joy, something like gym. I don't think so. And it's possible to have something that is both - exercise, writing, sometimes reading fall into that category for me. Many things worth doing are not easy but far more rewarding and worthwhile in the long run.
- toss1 5y ago
  >>feels more like a chore than joy, something like gym. If going to the gym feels more like a chore than a joy, then you may be doing it wrong, or inconsistently (some good coaching may help).

No, you won't go back into it! If you remember it, and used it a few years ago, but then forgot about it until some random HN post mentioned it, it's not something with persistent utility (addiction) to you. EDIT: I see I got understood in a way I didn't intend to. Didn't want to say anything about parent, just pointing out that mentioned platform itself lack addictiveness to be considered a good (successful) social network. Or is this one of the "feel good, we all should be using it" kind of stuff, where people force themselves to use it, because it's "right thing to do", but it feels more like a chore than joy, something like gym.

jedimastert 5y ago
I'm in a very different place than I was a few years ago.
- e40 5y ago
  I know this is the innernets, but I always get a kick out of responses like the GP's. Wow.
  - mistermann 5y ago
    The human mind's ability to see into the future based on sparse data is a fascinating phenomenon, and fairly ubiquitous.
    - LocalH 5y ago
      The human mind's ability to incorrectly apply that foresight to others is equally ubiquitous, however.
      - Shared404 5y ago
        And the human mind's ability to then use said "insight" to demean others, is also unfortunately ubiquitous.
        mistermann 5y ago
        demean: cause a severe loss in the dignity of and respect for (someone or something). Is it really that bad? It's plausible, but I'm skeptical. Regardless, it is surely suboptimal. I wonder if there are more optimal approaches than "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" (my Mom's advice)....can you think of any?
        Shared404 5y ago
        > Is it really that bad? It's plausible, but I'm skeptical. Demean was too strong a word, I need to follow my own advice better :). > Regardless, it is surely suboptimal. I wonder if there are more optimal approaches than "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" (my Mom's advice)....can you think of any? The three gates[0] are what I try (and admittedly fail miserably) to implement, though not in their original form. I generally try for "Is it true", "Is it useful", "Is it kind" - in that order of precedence if they can not all be met. [0] Is it true, is it necessary, is it kind.
        mistermann 5y ago
        I like it. I would evaluate it thusly: a) Is it true? I would say: overwhelmingly. b) Is it necessary? In an absolute sense: no. In a relative sense (say, if one has a specific goal in mind): Certainly maybe, but I would predict: Extremely Likely. > Is it kind. I suspect not. But then, I think HN'ers can have thick skin when required (say, if you are trying to optimize The System that we all live within).
      - mistermann 5y ago
        Hmmmm, not sure I understand?
Shared404 5y ago
> persistent utility (addiction) That's... not a good definition of persistent utility. My pantry has quite a lot of persistent utility, but I'm reasonably sure I'm not addicted to it. Edit: >Didn't want to say anything about parent, I apologize for my misreading. >just pointing out that mentioned platform itself lack addictiveness to be considered a good (successful) social network. I think that depends on the definition of successful. I quite like the idea of calm technology. I think it's possible to have a non-addictive social network which lets you socialize without feeling compelled to use it. It wouldn't be for everyone, but wouldn't be for no one. >Or is this one of the "feel good, we all should be using it" kind of stuff, where people force themselves to use it, because it's "right thing to do", but it feels more like a chore than joy, something like gym. I don't think so. And it's possible to have something that is both - exercise, writing, sometimes reading fall into that category for me. Many things worth doing are not easy but far more rewarding and worthwhile in the long run.
toss1 5y ago
>>feels more like a chore than joy, something like gym. If going to the gym feels more like a chore than a joy, then you may be doing it wrong, or inconsistently (some good coaching may help).