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> From what I've read, the racism in France is quite bad Links

whimsicalism 5y ago
https://www.connexionfrance.com/Archive/Clubs-accused-of-racism-at-door https://www.connexionfrance.com/Archive/Clubs-accused-of-rac... https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/sports/psg-racial-profiling.amp.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/sports/psg-racial-profili... https://www.luminosoa.org/site/books/m/10.1525/luminos.39/ https://www.luminosoa.org/site/books/m/10.1525/luminos.39/
- NikolaeVarius 5y ago
  Several isolated incidents does not make a larger problem
  - whimsicalism 5y ago
    So you want me to provide statistical evidence of a broader problem in a country where it is illegal to collect any statistics around race? https://www.newsweek.com/french-activists-39-percent-paris-temp-agencies-agreed-weed-out-non-white-workers-1637191 https://www.newsweek.com/french-activists-39-percent-paris-t... 39% of Parisian hiring agencies agreeing to filter out non-white job applicants: You would never get anywhere near that number in an urban US core.
    - NikolaeVarius 5y ago
      > So you want me to provide statistical evidence of a broader problem in a country where it is illegal to collect any statistics around race? Yes? Since apparently you feel perfectly comfortable with a link trying to prove this very fact, but lets see the claims of the article you linked. > called 69 temporary employment agencies in the Paris area posing as employees from a construction firm. Already an extremely small sample > The French government said it would summon the companies in question. Audited > It said 55 percent of the branch offices it contacted refused requests to discriminate. Okay > Although limited in scope to a small number of agencies, the findings highlight what anti-racism campaigners say is a wider problem of discrimination in some French workplaces. A claim of wider effects from a noted small sample
      - whimsicalism 5y ago
        variance = p*q/n, gives an estimate of ~0.3% which puts >95% probability of the the true proportion of racist french temp agencies >25%. It's more than large enough of a sample size to put a tight confidence interval around the proportion. Again, as I've said - you would never get anything remotely like this in the urban core of the US.

https://www.connexionfrance.com/Archive/Clubs-accused-of-racism-at-door https://www.connexionfrance.com/Archive/Clubs-accused-of-rac... https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/sports/psg-racial-profiling.amp.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/sports/psg-racial-profili... https://www.luminosoa.org/site/books/m/10.1525/luminos.39/ https://www.luminosoa.org/site/books/m/10.1525/luminos.39/

NikolaeVarius 5y ago
Several isolated incidents does not make a larger problem
- whimsicalism 5y ago
  So you want me to provide statistical evidence of a broader problem in a country where it is illegal to collect any statistics around race? https://www.newsweek.com/french-activists-39-percent-paris-temp-agencies-agreed-weed-out-non-white-workers-1637191 https://www.newsweek.com/french-activists-39-percent-paris-t... 39% of Parisian hiring agencies agreeing to filter out non-white job applicants: You would never get anywhere near that number in an urban US core.
  - NikolaeVarius 5y ago
    > So you want me to provide statistical evidence of a broader problem in a country where it is illegal to collect any statistics around race? Yes? Since apparently you feel perfectly comfortable with a link trying to prove this very fact, but lets see the claims of the article you linked. > called 69 temporary employment agencies in the Paris area posing as employees from a construction firm. Already an extremely small sample > The French government said it would summon the companies in question. Audited > It said 55 percent of the branch offices it contacted refused requests to discriminate. Okay > Although limited in scope to a small number of agencies, the findings highlight what anti-racism campaigners say is a wider problem of discrimination in some French workplaces. A claim of wider effects from a noted small sample
    - whimsicalism 5y ago
      variance = p*q/n, gives an estimate of ~0.3% which puts >95% probability of the the true proportion of racist french temp agencies >25%. It's more than large enough of a sample size to put a tight confidence interval around the proportion. Again, as I've said - you would never get anything remotely like this in the urban core of the US.