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> Just ban phone usage nonstop already like other, sane countries. Can you give a specific example? There are only a few countries with safer roads (e.g. Norwa

by krona 5y ago

> Just ban phone usage nonstop already like other, sane countries. Can you give a specific example? There are only a few countries with safer roads (e.g. Norway, Sweden, Switzerland depending how you measure) and I know that Norway has less restrictive laws and Sweden has almost none except for egregious behaviour like texting (last time I checked.)

consp 5y ago
The Netherlands bans all holding of mobile phones, enabled or not. Pressing something like "alternative route" is allowed (in the same sense as operating the radio) but only when the device is firmly attached to the car like in a mount.
- contravariant 5y ago
  Mostly it's the holding of an mobile electronic device that's explicitly forbidden. Using it excessively is covered by the common sense article of traffic laws which just tells you not to do dangerous things. The law has basically been extended to cover possibly non-dangerous holding of mobile phones to lighten the burden of proof.
arnklint 5y ago
Since early 2018 it’s forbidden to use a phone while driving in Sweden. https://www.trafikverket.se/resa-och-trafik/trafiksakerhet/Din-sakerhet-pa-vagen/Mobiltelefoner-i-trafiken/ https://www.trafikverket.se/resa-och-trafik/trafiksakerhet/D...
- krona 5y ago
  Thanks for the link. This seems to be a ban on holding a phone. (As in the UK already https://www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phones-when-driving-the-law https://www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phones-when-driving-the-law)
lb1lf 5y ago
-In Norway, the law states that if you are to use your phone in a moving motor vehicle, it needs to be installed in an approved handsfree holder, with the screen as close to the driver's normal field of view as possible. No hand-held use is allowed. If so installed, you may use it to initiate and accept calls. You may also use your phone for navigation, entertainment &c provided the phone is configured for whatever purpose while the vehicle is stationary or using either voice commands or vehicle-integrated controls. You may NOT touch any phone buttons or touch screens for any other purpose than dialing a number or answering a call while the vehicle is moving.
Dah00n 5y ago
In Denmark if you pull to the side of the road and you then send a text you can be fined US$250 and get 1 count on your license (above 3 means they take your license). Using a phone is strictly forbidden at any time you are "part of the traffic". So either the phone has to be secured to the car somehow (not hand-held that is) or you cannot in any way be part of the traffic. It is rare but people do get fined for this from time to time.
- tomjen3 5y ago
  Just to clarify: I have my phone mounted in a holder attached to my window. I can basically do whatever I want with it as long as it stays in the holder. If I remove it and put it away without taking my eyes of the road, the penalty is as described above. If I were to type this comment on it while mounted and still payed attention to trafic, no penalty. And yet I still see a massive number of people with their phone to their ear.
soco 5y ago
Another example: Switzerland forbids in hand mobile phone usage as well.

by krona 5y ago

consp 5y ago

The Netherlands bans all holding of mobile phones, enabled or not. Pressing something like "alternative route" is allowed (in the same sense as operating the radio) but only when the device is firmly attached to the car like in a mount.

contravariant 5y ago
Mostly it's the holding of an mobile electronic device that's explicitly forbidden. Using it excessively is covered by the common sense article of traffic laws which just tells you not to do dangerous things. The law has basically been extended to cover possibly non-dangerous holding of mobile phones to lighten the burden of proof.

arnklint 5y ago

Since early 2018 it’s forbidden to use a phone while driving in Sweden. https://www.trafikverket.se/resa-och-trafik/trafiksakerhet/Din-sakerhet-pa-vagen/Mobiltelefoner-i-trafiken/ https://www.trafikverket.se/resa-och-trafik/trafiksakerhet/D...

krona 5y ago
Thanks for the link. This seems to be a ban on holding a phone. (As in the UK already https://www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phones-when-driving-the-law https://www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phones-when-driving-the-law)

lb1lf 5y ago

-In Norway, the law states that if you are to use your phone in a moving motor vehicle, it needs to be installed in an approved handsfree holder, with the screen as close to the driver's normal field of view as possible. No hand-held use is allowed. If so installed, you may use it to initiate and accept calls. You may also use your phone for navigation, entertainment &c provided the phone is configured for whatever purpose while the vehicle is stationary or using either voice commands or vehicle-integrated controls. You may NOT touch any phone buttons or touch screens for any other purpose than dialing a number or answering a call while the vehicle is moving.

Dah00n 5y ago

In Denmark if you pull to the side of the road and you then send a text you can be fined US$250 and get 1 count on your license (above 3 means they take your license). Using a phone is strictly forbidden at any time you are "part of the traffic". So either the phone has to be secured to the car somehow (not hand-held that is) or you cannot in any way be part of the traffic. It is rare but people do get fined for this from time to time.

tomjen3 5y ago
Just to clarify: I have my phone mounted in a holder attached to my window. I can basically do whatever I want with it as long as it stays in the holder. If I remove it and put it away without taking my eyes of the road, the penalty is as described above. If I were to type this comment on it while mounted and still payed attention to trafic, no penalty. And yet I still see a massive number of people with their phone to their ear.

soco 5y ago

Another example: Switzerland forbids in hand mobile phone usage as well.