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I mean, phones were very very different when the law went into place. I don't think it's quite fair to be totally harsh on the legislators not predicting moder

I mean, phones were very very different when the law went into place. I don't think it's quite fair to be totally harsh on the legislators not predicting modern smartphone complexity. If you ban it completely you'd also ban using GPS/Maps/Sat Nav apps.

capableweb 5y ago
> I mean, phones were very very different when the law went into place. I don't know exactly when the previous law came into effect, but I remember the Nokia 3310 (released 2000) had games on it already. > If you ban it completely you'd also ban using GPS/Maps/Sat Nav apps. Yeah, hence I wrote about excepting navigational purposes in my comment.
i_am_proteus 5y ago
Isn't that the point? Navigation software has audio cues for turns that let the driver keep his eyes on the road. If you need to read a map, pull over, stop the vehicle, and read the map.
- consp 5y ago
  > Navigation software has audio cues for turns that let the driver keep his eyes on the road Considering lots of people place their phone/nav device on the windshield and block enough sight to hide a schoolbus in their direct view I don't think this actually matters all that much.
hmrr 5y ago
No it’s absolutely fine. I have an iPhone with a basic Bluetooth connection to the car. I have a stalk for audio control and I use Siri to tell it to do stuff. The audio is entirely hands free. You just get in the car and it works. You don’t need to touch or handle it for navigation either. iOS also switches into driving focus mode which turns all the other distractions off: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208090 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208090 The legislation is perfectly good.
- Dah00n 5y ago
  >and I use Siri to tell it to do stuff. Using Siri is more dangerous than texting. The below linked research (and others) found that using Siri raises the reaction time 36%. That is 1% worse than texting! For comparison, driving at the drink-drive limit (UK) is 12%. So you are doing yourself a big disservice by using Siri and thinking you are safe(r). https://www.iamroadsmart.com/campaign-pages/end-customer-campaigns/infotainment https://www.iamroadsmart.com/campaign-pages/end-customer-cam...
  - hmrr 5y ago
    I don’t use it when I’m actually driving. Before to set the destination.
    - capableweb 5y ago
      If you're not actively driving, you might as well just hold the device in your hand?
      - hmrr 5y ago
        “Hey siri navigate home” Pretty simple.
- breakfastduck 5y ago
  Yes, as long as it works for your very specific personal preference!

capableweb 5y ago

> I mean, phones were very very different when the law went into place. I don't know exactly when the previous law came into effect, but I remember the Nokia 3310 (released 2000) had games on it already. > If you ban it completely you'd also ban using GPS/Maps/Sat Nav apps. Yeah, hence I wrote about excepting navigational purposes in my comment.

i_am_proteus 5y ago

Isn't that the point? Navigation software has audio cues for turns that let the driver keep his eyes on the road. If you need to read a map, pull over, stop the vehicle, and read the map.

consp 5y ago
> Navigation software has audio cues for turns that let the driver keep his eyes on the road Considering lots of people place their phone/nav device on the windshield and block enough sight to hide a schoolbus in their direct view I don't think this actually matters all that much.

hmrr 5y ago

No it’s absolutely fine. I have an iPhone with a basic Bluetooth connection to the car. I have a stalk for audio control and I use Siri to tell it to do stuff. The audio is entirely hands free. You just get in the car and it works. You don’t need to touch or handle it for navigation either. iOS also switches into driving focus mode which turns all the other distractions off: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208090 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208090 The legislation is perfectly good.

Dah00n 5y ago
>and I use Siri to tell it to do stuff. Using Siri is more dangerous than texting. The below linked research (and others) found that using Siri raises the reaction time 36%. That is 1% worse than texting! For comparison, driving at the drink-drive limit (UK) is 12%. So you are doing yourself a big disservice by using Siri and thinking you are safe(r). https://www.iamroadsmart.com/campaign-pages/end-customer-campaigns/infotainment https://www.iamroadsmart.com/campaign-pages/end-customer-cam...
- hmrr 5y ago
  I don’t use it when I’m actually driving. Before to set the destination.
  - capableweb 5y ago
    If you're not actively driving, you might as well just hold the device in your hand?
    - hmrr 5y ago
      “Hey siri navigate home” Pretty simple.
breakfastduck 5y ago
Yes, as long as it works for your very specific personal preference!