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It was just a question of time. That's why we need open source systems and world-lead companies doin important stuff like AIS or even GPS, and not one country l

It was just a question of time. That's why we need open source systems and world-lead companies doin important stuff like AIS or even GPS, and not one country leading a company for a technology half of world utilize. Let's try to build a better world - without any "world Police" or "foreign agents". Idk how - don't ask me :)

yorwba 5y ago
How is a "world-lead" company recording AIS transmissions from all ships everywhere not world police, open source or not? And if you do it against the will of the country where the ships are located, it's basically espionage.
- theGeatZhopa 5y ago
  No, because that one country not willing to share their data, also won't get any. An open source based system which is decentralized would minimize the possibility to be shut down by one country as it happens right now. Obvious. What about GPS that can be switched off by the US? Or glonas that can be switched of by Russians.. So that's the answers to your question. AIS is being managed by a Beijing based company. That is a problem right now, because everything is depending on that data and Beijing knows that. In year 2018 they tryed to manipulate ships positions shifting them to another position (and did that).. So please would you explain what solutions you propose?
  - yorwba 5y ago
    > AIS is being managed by a Beijing based company. What? No. AIS is a technical standard that allows ships to broadcast their position to avoid colliding with other ships in the area, it's not managed by any one company. The companies that the article is talking about have covered China with a network of receivers recording the AIS transmissions of all ships, and until recently they were selling access to that surveillance feed to other companies who integrate data from multiple countries to enable worldwide tracking. > In year 2018 they tryed to manipulate ships positions shifting them to another position (and did that). That wasn't manipulation at the level of AIS recording companies; the ships themselves were misreporting their position because something was interfering with their GPS signal.
    - theGeatZhopa 5y ago
      Oh.. I then might got everything wrong. Thank you for clearing yorwba

yorwba 5y ago

How is a "world-lead" company recording AIS transmissions from all ships everywhere not world police, open source or not? And if you do it against the will of the country where the ships are located, it's basically espionage.

theGeatZhopa 5y ago
No, because that one country not willing to share their data, also won't get any. An open source based system which is decentralized would minimize the possibility to be shut down by one country as it happens right now. Obvious. What about GPS that can be switched off by the US? Or glonas that can be switched of by Russians.. So that's the answers to your question. AIS is being managed by a Beijing based company. That is a problem right now, because everything is depending on that data and Beijing knows that. In year 2018 they tryed to manipulate ships positions shifting them to another position (and did that).. So please would you explain what solutions you propose?
- yorwba 5y ago
  > AIS is being managed by a Beijing based company. What? No. AIS is a technical standard that allows ships to broadcast their position to avoid colliding with other ships in the area, it's not managed by any one company. The companies that the article is talking about have covered China with a network of receivers recording the AIS transmissions of all ships, and until recently they were selling access to that surveillance feed to other companies who integrate data from multiple countries to enable worldwide tracking. > In year 2018 they tryed to manipulate ships positions shifting them to another position (and did that). That wasn't manipulation at the level of AIS recording companies; the ships themselves were misreporting their position because something was interfering with their GPS signal.
  - theGeatZhopa 5y ago
    Oh.. I then might got everything wrong. Thank you for clearing yorwba