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I honestly can't be the only person who doesn't care about a non-active filter list that was probably left over by some dev who put it in there for Chinese user
by Barrin92 5y ago
I honestly can't be the only person who doesn't care about a non-active filter list that was probably left over by some dev who put it in there for Chinese users.
I feel like at this point we're just scraping the bottom of the barrel for the daily dose of anti-Chinese content
- pixelpanic360 5y agoapparently you don't know how evil is CCP. I don't blame your ignorance.
- ooer 5y agoAnd it's fine for Chinese people to get their speech censored?
- baka367 5y agoTo be fair that is none of our business. Every government decided these things by themselves.
- 2Gkashmiri 5y agoCool. So by your logic, USA should not impose its view of "modern" "democracy" to other countries. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, or even Iran. Why does USA care if Iran assaults its citizens for whatever reason?
- tpxl 5y agoNo, it should not. The USA imposing "democracy" by dropping bombs on civilians is part of the reason the region is unstable.
- bronzeage 5y agoI would love it if what the US imposed was an actual democracy. What the US imposed in practice was the shah coup in Iran, which was quite democratic beforehand, which in turn led to the Islamic revolution. The US doesn't impose democracies, the US just installs its own corrupted dictators. Afghanistan was also just installed corrupted dictators.
- bserge 5y agoOof, yeah, those are some great examples. They're all utopian societies now that the US has imposed their views.
- eunos 5y agoUnironically agree. Haven't we forgot the morbid situation in contemporary Libya? Along with buyer's remorse on Arab Spring?
- 2Gkashmiri 5y agogaddafi was removed from office and killed for refusing to trade in US dollar instead of his demand for physical gold. yeah
- tomjen3 5y agoWhen human rights are denied anywhere, it is the business of people everywhere. States exist to protect human rights and states that don’t have no right to exist.
- charcircuit 5y agoHuman rights are made up. What might be considered a human right to you may not be considered a human right to the Chinese government. You should be more open minded that different people and cultures have different values.
- anders_p 5y agoWow... Do you think women shouldn't have rights too, if a country's government doesn't think they are worthy? That we shouldn't care about the treatment of migrant workers in the Middle East? Apartheid was fine? Slavery? I mean, as long as the country's government thinks so, and the "cultural values are different". It's honestly disheartening to read a comment such as yours here.
- Kbelicius 5y agoWow... GP said that human rights are made up and not that he thinks that people shouldn't have any rights, made up or not.
- charcircuit 5y agoPlease read my comment in context to what I was responding to. The person who I was responding to said essentially "If a government doesn't follow my values it should be dissolved."
- mechanical_bear 5y ago> Human rights are made up This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on HN.
- Kbelicius 5y ago
- Siira 5y agoThis is the kind of stupid, racist mindset that has allowed the majority of world governments to be corrupt and abusive. All monopolies need extreme measures to not suck as much, and the Chinese gov being shitty to their citizens will lower your own leverage against your government. (It’s not like the authoritarian trend is not already visibly global.)
- ooer 5y agoThey can do whatever they want because...?
- 88840-8855 5y agoI think that the US played World Police enough already.
- andy_ppp 5y agoAmerican power lead to a reduction in wars believe it or not. There would have been a lot more death and destruction, even with the mistakes America has made, than had there been this current inward looking naval gazing America. When Chinese power controls the world you’ll realise just how good we all had it.
- onethought 5y agoWat? America starting lots of wars save the world from lots more wars because China (which has started 0 wars) will start many more wars? That’s some serious mental gymnastics.
- andy_ppp 5y agoNot really, I think China would have invaded Taiwan at least by now and would be threatening Japan and South Korea but for American power in the region. Why do you think there’s been peace in Europe for so long?
- onethought 5y agoBecause NATO and the EU. Well if the US hadn’t have got involved at all. There probably wouldn’t be a communist China, and Taiwan would be threatening to invade mainland Japan. But everything you say is just massive speculation…
- herbst 5y agoYou are confusing something. Are you talking about the country that started nearly any war in the recent past, failed to win or loose it and just stretched it out for years while killing thousands of civils for the good? The same country that somehow managed to break the Geneva convention regularly, especially with things like Guantanamo and have no excuse at all? All in the name of spreading democracy, something they not manage to actually implement themselves? From my POV America is the one country we need to be most afraid of. Mostly because their irrational, war driven, and human rights ignoring behaviour all around the world. Not just in their country
- whoevercares 5y agoSo what? USA can punish CCP by boycott it, crash its economy and HOPE that Chinese People will overthrown CCP. Guess who will suffer the most, yes the Chinese people And you westerners celebrate “freedom of speech” without paying any cost. Really, stay away from our internal business. USA has a tracked record of screwing things up by imposing democracy prematurely
- stickfigure 5y agoThe main problem is that there's a self-governing, democratic nation of 23 million people nearby that the CCP regularly threatens to invade. We've grown rather fond of those people and do a lot of mutually beneficial trade with them. As long as the CCP threatens other nations, it isn't "internal business".
- sofixa 5y agoThe ROC(Taiwan)/PRC(China) issue is so much more complicated than "CCP regularly threatens to invade".
- whoevercares 5y agoWhen did CCP threaten to invade? I guaranteed you all those countries benefit a lot more from a healthy China
- mb_72 5y agoYou are speaking for all mainland Chinese? Ok, well, let me speak for all Australians affected negatively by the b/s extra 'taxes'/trade restrictions/etc put in place by the Chinese government... because they didn't like some things that were said about them?
- whoevercares 5y agoThe OP is speaking for all the Chinese people in the first place
- ooer 5y ago
- causi 5y agoDid you miss the part where it could be activated remotely, and was modified remotely in an attempt to conceal its nature as a political tool? As we've seen with the US, governments will do anything they think they can get away with. Making it known that even the tiniest millimetric step in this direction with not be tolerated is extremely important as the West's tech landscape is occupied more and more by Chinese devices, Chinese software, and Chinese algorithms.
- superjan 5y agoI read that differently: the list on the phone itself wasn’t modified, but the lithuanian report about it, presumably under pressure from china.
- cycomanic 5y ago“They reacted,” Margiris Abukevicius, Lithuania’s vice minister for defense, told me. It seems like you misunderstood, that statement from the Abukevicius clearly states it was Xiaomi who changed the list (and then removed it).
- causi 5y agoHundreds of generic "naughty" words were added to the list remotely by Xiaomi in order to make the list seem like it wasn't intended as a political tool, then Xiaomi remotely deleted it from the phone.
- superjan 5y agoSeems I was wrong. Sorry. This defies the imagination!
- urbanmiffs 5y agoUpdating any smart phone to the same functionality over the air would be trivial though. So if you were the Chinese government wanting to stop those phrases being used at some time in the future, it would make more sense to send the list at the time you activate the list, rather than in advance to be found before it's ever been activated. It seems more provocative than anything else.
- anders_p 5y agoYou don't care about the censorship and oppression of 1/5 of the world population by the CCCP? Doesn't that make _you_ the anti-chinese one here?
- eunos 5y agoOppressed 1/5 of world population is on track to become high income country and highest GDP?
- jeswin 5y agoIf I had to pick between free speech and higher income, I'll pick free speech.
- eunos 5y agoBetter having full tummy and empty mind rather than the other way around.
- kymaz 5y agoUnless the religion one follows condemns you to an afterlife of suffering for the actions you took to have a full tummy.
- mildmotive 5y agoIf they’re a commie (atheist) they don’t believe in an afterlife anyway, so there isn’t really any accountability in the mind of such a person if they can get away with whatever they do in this life.
- anders_p 5y ago> If they’re a commie (atheist) they don’t believe in an afterlife anyway, so there isn’t really any accountability in the mind of such a person if they can get away with whatever they do in this life. Unlike the religious people who believe, that they can sin as much as they want to, just as long as they repent, and then still go to heaven?
- herbst 5y agoMy phone is not secure. It is not the device I trust. I don't trust Google, I don't trust the US to somehow collect data and I don't trust the Chinese neither. Thing is no websites or banks trust ME if I don't have a kinda recent mobile phone with Googeld Android or OSX.