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I'm not sure you would find censorship of terms like “Democratic Movement” and “Long live Taiwan’s independence.” on Other platforms. not sure if you're intent

I'm not sure you would find censorship of terms like “Democratic Movement” and “Long live Taiwan’s independence.” on Other platforms. not sure if you're intentionally comparing things like child porn to democracy as equally deserving of censorship but that's how i read it.

volgo 5y ago
I'm not sure you would find censorship of terms like "Uighur are not in camps" on Twitter and Facebook. Because as per US foreign policy, "denying" those claims is not allowed
convery 5y ago
Kind of scary how whenever someone comments on censorship a lot of peoples minds immediately go to CP.. Like, out of the millions of things one could somewhat legitimately censor, it's always CP..
- usui 5y ago
  W-What? Are you suggesting that an instrument for censorship could be used for anything other than its stated purpose?! The West has always been the place for free speech and tolerance!
- shadowgovt 5y ago
  CP is the exception that proves the rule in the concept of liberal communication. ... In the old definition of "proves" as in "tests," because any process that greenlights CP is wanting. So it's the one you go to as a litmus test for whether or not the question of censorship vs. open speech on the table is worth spending energy discoursing on.
- fsckboy 5y ago
  > Kind of scary how ... it's always CP kind of hilarious given the present context that where I come from, CP means Communist Party
carrolldunham 5y ago
Twitch etc have precisely such lists of words. Democratic movement is an idea that threatens the Chinese power structure - things that you probably don't like are a threat the American power structure. Just because you also personally find them kooky or immoral is irrelevant
coldtea 5y ago
>I'm not sure you would find censorship of terms like “Democratic Movement” and “Long live Taiwan’s independence.” on Other platforms. Yeah, on US tech platforms you can promote Taiwan's independence and criticize China's national interests, I'll give you that! It's like the old joke, where the American says that he's free-er as he can go to Times Square with a bullhorn megaphone and openly criticize the US Predident. To which the USSR guy counters that he's equally free, as he is also perfectly allowed to go to the Red Square and openly criticize the US Predident. >not sure if you're intentionally comparing things like child porn to democracy as equally deserving of censorship but that's how i read it. I wrote censoring based on "national interests" (not to mention petty political partisan censorship), but you took it that I was complaining about them censoring "child pornography". "Think of the children", much? I don't think that censoring people from Snowden and wiki-leaks (banned on several instances, which corporations even disabling their way to accept donations), to people writing on the wrong side of the political and being banned for "fake news" (while the "legit" sources touted BS like the Steele Dossier, that now, years after it doesn't matter anymore, do a 180-turn on), amounts to "child porn".
colordrops 5y ago
People get content deleted on American platforms for lots of content that is no where near child porn in obvious reprehensibility.

volgo 5y ago

I'm not sure you would find censorship of terms like "Uighur are not in camps" on Twitter and Facebook. Because as per US foreign policy, "denying" those claims is not allowed

convery 5y ago

Kind of scary how whenever someone comments on censorship a lot of peoples minds immediately go to CP.. Like, out of the millions of things one could somewhat legitimately censor, it's always CP..

usui 5y ago
W-What? Are you suggesting that an instrument for censorship could be used for anything other than its stated purpose?! The West has always been the place for free speech and tolerance!
shadowgovt 5y ago
CP is the exception that proves the rule in the concept of liberal communication. ... In the old definition of "proves" as in "tests," because any process that greenlights CP is wanting. So it's the one you go to as a litmus test for whether or not the question of censorship vs. open speech on the table is worth spending energy discoursing on.
fsckboy 5y ago
> Kind of scary how ... it's always CP kind of hilarious given the present context that where I come from, CP means Communist Party

carrolldunham 5y ago

Twitch etc have precisely such lists of words. Democratic movement is an idea that threatens the Chinese power structure - things that you probably don't like are a threat the American power structure. Just because you also personally find them kooky or immoral is irrelevant

coldtea 5y ago

>I'm not sure you would find censorship of terms like “Democratic Movement” and “Long live Taiwan’s independence.” on Other platforms. Yeah, on US tech platforms you can promote Taiwan's independence and criticize China's national interests, I'll give you that! It's like the old joke, where the American says that he's free-er as he can go to Times Square with a bullhorn megaphone and openly criticize the US Predident. To which the USSR guy counters that he's equally free, as he is also perfectly allowed to go to the Red Square and openly criticize the US Predident. >not sure if you're intentionally comparing things like child porn to democracy as equally deserving of censorship but that's how i read it. I wrote censoring based on "national interests" (not to mention petty political partisan censorship), but you took it that I was complaining about them censoring "child pornography". "Think of the children", much? I don't think that censoring people from Snowden and wiki-leaks (banned on several instances, which corporations even disabling their way to accept donations), to people writing on the wrong side of the political and being banned for "fake news" (while the "legit" sources touted BS like the Steele Dossier, that now, years after it doesn't matter anymore, do a 180-turn on), amounts to "child porn".

colordrops 5y ago

People get content deleted on American platforms for lots of content that is no where near child porn in obvious reprehensibility.