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> The process is simple, transparent and most curiously does not mandate ID https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=ids&document=index&lang=e htt

> The process is simple, transparent and most curiously does not mandate ID https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=ids&document=index&lang=e https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=ids&do... Pretty sure you need an ID to vote in Canada. You could argue that you don't need ID if you have an address and proof but neither do you for suggested voter ID laws in the US. If you don't have a state ID or driver's license you can use a utility bill. But currently you do need ID in Canada or a backup form of identification. I really don't understand the argument against voter ID. Many have said that lower income can't afford it but do not want to talk about programs to subsidize state IDs or about talk about backup identification like utility bills. Also with the vaccine passport crap we seem to be fine segregating who can travel and eat. I agree there are bigger issues with the voting system (that is state level, not federal mind you), but that doesn't mean verification should be thrown out the window.

Teever 5y ago
Look at option 3 in your link.
- hunterb123 5y ago
  > A person can vouch for only one person (except in long-term care institutions). That seems like a limited substitution for edge cases, definitely doesn't equate to the statement "no voter ID is needed"
  - Teever 5y ago
    Perhaps, but when there are people calling for mandatory voter ID with counterfeiting/authentication measures similar to passports and drivers licenses the Canadian system is laughably weak in comparison and hardly being worth being called 'ID'. One can easily edit a pdf of a bill and bank statement to have whatever name and address flash a copy of them on your phone and vote in Canada. It's basically an American Voter ID proponent's worst nightmare and yet it seems to work perfectly fine. Thinking that implementing mandatory Voter ID by itself is going to improve American democracy in any substantial way without introducing a myriad of unintended negative consequences is myopic at best and malicious at worst. From my perspective as a non-American the voter ID issue is a complete red herring promoted to distract from the real and glaring issues with the American voting process. What's really weird is that it seems to work.
    - hunterb123 5y ago
      Some states already have mandatory voter ID like Canada, all of them allow a utility bill as an alternative. I don't see the harm in authenticating people.

Teever 5y ago

Look at option 3 in your link.

hunterb123 5y ago
> A person can vouch for only one person (except in long-term care institutions). That seems like a limited substitution for edge cases, definitely doesn't equate to the statement "no voter ID is needed"
- Teever 5y ago
  Perhaps, but when there are people calling for mandatory voter ID with counterfeiting/authentication measures similar to passports and drivers licenses the Canadian system is laughably weak in comparison and hardly being worth being called 'ID'. One can easily edit a pdf of a bill and bank statement to have whatever name and address flash a copy of them on your phone and vote in Canada. It's basically an American Voter ID proponent's worst nightmare and yet it seems to work perfectly fine. Thinking that implementing mandatory Voter ID by itself is going to improve American democracy in any substantial way without introducing a myriad of unintended negative consequences is myopic at best and malicious at worst. From my perspective as a non-American the voter ID issue is a complete red herring promoted to distract from the real and glaring issues with the American voting process. What's really weird is that it seems to work.
  - hunterb123 5y ago
    Some states already have mandatory voter ID like Canada, all of them allow a utility bill as an alternative. I don't see the harm in authenticating people.