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Self-driving is gonna be a whole generation beyond wide acceptance of EV. It’s def two diff market battles. EVs prob mainstream in 5-8 years.

abracadaniel 5y ago
I kind of hate that Tesla made this such a focus for their cars. I think we’d have been better served by them being more focused on just good electric cars. It feel like I’m in the minority though, because it seems to have worked out well for them. Even with many years of delays, and many more years before things are solid, they’re as popular as ever.
- heavyset_go 5y ago
  Part of TSLA's trillion dollar market cap is predicated on a lot of retail investors believing that the Tesla cars they already own will one day receive an update that will allow the cars to act as driverless robotaxis, and that will generate income for their owners while they sleep.
  - polishdude20 5y ago
    How is this business model that much different than hiring a taxi driver, buying them a car, buying a license and forming your own one man business? Sure you now need to pay the drivers salary but your profit margins will be the same as with a tesla.
  - abracadaniel 5y ago
    What I’m not sure about is whether the investors believe that will be the case, or if they just believe saying it will help the stock value. I see a lot of talk of how far Elon exaggerates, so I find myself wondering if it’s a bit of a shared delusion, where no one really believes the claims, but everyone thinks that everyone else believes it.
  - fwoimpl 5y ago
    > driverless robotaxis that will generate income for their owners while they sleep. Do they really? The first image that sentence conjures is stepping into my shiny Tesla for my morning commute, only to be greeted by a noxious blast from the puddle of some 3am customer's vomit that's been fermenting since last night. As I reel back, coughing, the car's infotainment system starts playing a voice message, helpfully informing me that this vehicle has been banned from the robotaxi network due to multiple reports of unsanitary conditions.

abracadaniel 5y ago

I kind of hate that Tesla made this such a focus for their cars. I think we’d have been better served by them being more focused on just good electric cars. It feel like I’m in the minority though, because it seems to have worked out well for them. Even with many years of delays, and many more years before things are solid, they’re as popular as ever.

heavyset_go 5y ago
Part of TSLA's trillion dollar market cap is predicated on a lot of retail investors believing that the Tesla cars they already own will one day receive an update that will allow the cars to act as driverless robotaxis, and that will generate income for their owners while they sleep.
- polishdude20 5y ago
  How is this business model that much different than hiring a taxi driver, buying them a car, buying a license and forming your own one man business? Sure you now need to pay the drivers salary but your profit margins will be the same as with a tesla.
- abracadaniel 5y ago
  What I’m not sure about is whether the investors believe that will be the case, or if they just believe saying it will help the stock value. I see a lot of talk of how far Elon exaggerates, so I find myself wondering if it’s a bit of a shared delusion, where no one really believes the claims, but everyone thinks that everyone else believes it.
- fwoimpl 5y ago
  > driverless robotaxis that will generate income for their owners while they sleep. Do they really? The first image that sentence conjures is stepping into my shiny Tesla for my morning commute, only to be greeted by a noxious blast from the puddle of some 3am customer's vomit that's been fermenting since last night. As I reel back, coughing, the car's infotainment system starts playing a voice message, helpfully informing me that this vehicle has been banned from the robotaxi network due to multiple reports of unsanitary conditions.