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That's pretty nifty. It still boggles my mind that drugs like alcohol are legal in the USA but safer drugs like cannabis are not legal in the USA.

benatkin 5y ago
Why do you say it's not legal in the USA? If it's legal in some states, that means that the federal government should allow it. If they were to step in, that would go against the constitution and the current state of legislation (which I think by allowing cultivation of hemp leaves the door open). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_the_United_States#Federal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_the_United_States#...
- pessimizer 5y ago
  Banking is important. Without banking, weed businesses will still encourage crime (although primarily as victims.)
  - true_religion 5y ago
    Aren’t all banks regulated by the states themselves? In terms of convenience, having to use a debit card instead of a credit card isn’t very big of a difference.
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
  > Why do you say it's not legal in the USA? Because the federal government of the USA is slow to update its laws.
taxyz23 5y ago
I would question that assumption but regardless of relative risks, why would any thinking country want to increase the number of intoxicated drivers on the highway which decriminalization will surely do? Why legalize another vice, particularly one which causes lung damage[1], causes neurological and cognitive harm, is generally demotivating, anti-social and can lead to depression [2] ? You don't see this in China. [3]While the west sits back and smokes their weed China will only be too happy to kick its butt economically, militarily, and technolgically. What a sad and wasteful future we deliberately build. [1]https://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effects/marijuana-and-lung-health https://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effec... [2] https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/smoking-too-much-marijuana-brings-you-down-study-n544376 https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/smoking-too-much-... [3] https://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/countries/cannabis-in-china-laws-use-history/ https://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/countries/cannabis-in-china-l...
- deleted 5y ago
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- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
  Setting aside your assumption that using drugs like alcohol or weed is a vice, and setting aside your assumptions about China’s intentions, then you aren’t left with much to reply to. You can find plenty of public information that documents relative levels of health impact from different drugs, so I’ll leave it to you to observe that I wasn’t making an assumption when I shared the fact that cannabis is generally considered to have less negative impact than alcohol.
- piva00 5y ago
  Your worldview is extremely biased into "productivism"... Why is that what only matters for you is what a society can produce? Militarily, technologically and so on. Would you prefer to live in a society with extremely low levels of freedoms but that can manage to increase their productive output rather than one where you can be a human being and express yourself? Why do you judge others with such a righteous view of what is a vice and project that view into how whole societies should behave? Even more that you compare it to... China? Why is China your benchmark? Are you afraid that China will take-over your country economically? Are you afraid of something else from China? Why do you care if China does something or not? It rattles me to think that there are people thinking exactly like you, completely diminishing human existence into how productive one can be based on a very strict (and square) set of parameters. Wasteful future is exactly what we've built, with China's participation: a steamroller of manufacturing goods and services to be consumed. That is wasteful as fuck, just look at any corporate structure and how it functions, look at how much wasted time, mental energy, creativity and so on goes into what is, in the end of the day, unnecessary. Our lives are filled with unnecessary things, a drug that isn't that harmful is definitely not the culprit for a society to end in waste. I don't know, man, I feel that your comment is the condensation of the pointlessness of modern times, thinking about life as humans just as a vessel for productivity is just fucking sad. Your judgment of others while being completely oblivious to this sad bias is borderline infuriating, the self-righteousness exhaling from your comment really rubs off very wrongly.

benatkin 5y ago

Why do you say it's not legal in the USA? If it's legal in some states, that means that the federal government should allow it. If they were to step in, that would go against the constitution and the current state of legislation (which I think by allowing cultivation of hemp leaves the door open). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_the_United_States#Federal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_the_United_States#...

pessimizer 5y ago
Banking is important. Without banking, weed businesses will still encourage crime (although primarily as victims.)
- true_religion 5y ago
  Aren’t all banks regulated by the states themselves? In terms of convenience, having to use a debit card instead of a credit card isn’t very big of a difference.
9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
> Why do you say it's not legal in the USA? Because the federal government of the USA is slow to update its laws.

taxyz23 5y ago

I would question that assumption but regardless of relative risks, why would any thinking country want to increase the number of intoxicated drivers on the highway which decriminalization will surely do? Why legalize another vice, particularly one which causes lung damage[1], causes neurological and cognitive harm, is generally demotivating, anti-social and can lead to depression [2] ? You don't see this in China. [3]While the west sits back and smokes their weed China will only be too happy to kick its butt economically, militarily, and technolgically. What a sad and wasteful future we deliberately build. [1]https://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effects/marijuana-and-lung-health https://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effec... [2] https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/smoking-too-much-marijuana-brings-you-down-study-n544376 https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/smoking-too-much-... [3] https://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/countries/cannabis-in-china-laws-use-history/ https://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/countries/cannabis-in-china-l...

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9wzYQbTYsAIc 5y ago
Setting aside your assumption that using drugs like alcohol or weed is a vice, and setting aside your assumptions about China’s intentions, then you aren’t left with much to reply to. You can find plenty of public information that documents relative levels of health impact from different drugs, so I’ll leave it to you to observe that I wasn’t making an assumption when I shared the fact that cannabis is generally considered to have less negative impact than alcohol.
piva00 5y ago
Your worldview is extremely biased into "productivism"... Why is that what only matters for you is what a society can produce? Militarily, technologically and so on. Would you prefer to live in a society with extremely low levels of freedoms but that can manage to increase their productive output rather than one where you can be a human being and express yourself? Why do you judge others with such a righteous view of what is a vice and project that view into how whole societies should behave? Even more that you compare it to... China? Why is China your benchmark? Are you afraid that China will take-over your country economically? Are you afraid of something else from China? Why do you care if China does something or not? It rattles me to think that there are people thinking exactly like you, completely diminishing human existence into how productive one can be based on a very strict (and square) set of parameters. Wasteful future is exactly what we've built, with China's participation: a steamroller of manufacturing goods and services to be consumed. That is wasteful as fuck, just look at any corporate structure and how it functions, look at how much wasted time, mental energy, creativity and so on goes into what is, in the end of the day, unnecessary. Our lives are filled with unnecessary things, a drug that isn't that harmful is definitely not the culprit for a society to end in waste. I don't know, man, I feel that your comment is the condensation of the pointlessness of modern times, thinking about life as humans just as a vessel for productivity is just fucking sad. Your judgment of others while being completely oblivious to this sad bias is borderline infuriating, the self-righteousness exhaling from your comment really rubs off very wrongly.