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That's very sad, what you are willing to do for, or perhaps against, your own people for a market share, or maybe they have other plans, but i don't know what's

That's very sad, what you are willing to do for, or perhaps against, your own people for a market share, or maybe they have other plans, but i don't know what's the use case of drugs other than to dumbificate (to dumbify?) your population Where will they get the cannabis from? they don't have enough lands, import from the US/Canada i bet? ;) Modern opium war

simonh 5y ago
The purpose of legalisation like this is not to promote drug use, but to ameliorate the negative effects of criminalising drug use. Right now in many countries drugs are easily available almost everywhere, plus we have the grievous negative effects of a damaging war on drugs that we have comprehensively lost from day 1, plus the criminalisation effort obstructs the ability to properly address the health effects of drugs. I believe the most pragmatic approach is to decriminalise but regulate soft drugs like cannabis. This breaks them away completely from the criminal ecosystem. Next keep the trade in hard drugs illegal, but decriminalise use and possession of small amounts that are actually typical of users. This helps address health and welfare issues, plus if users know they will not be prosecuted, it drives a wedge between them and dealers. We’re never going to end the drug trade. It as futile as prohibition. What we can do is implement practical policies to mitigate its worst effects.
usrusr 5y ago
You might be surprised to find that opium wars haven't been fought to gain access to opium.
- Shadonototra 5y ago
  Why did they spread and market the use of opium? ;)
taxyz23 5y ago
This 1000%. Decriminalization will of course increase use.
- piva00 5y ago
  Do you have data or a source to support that "of course" statement?
  - Shadonototra 5y ago
    It keeps growing https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/legal-marijuana-market https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/legal-ma... https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/07/01/2256319/0/en/Global-cannabis-market-share-to-boost-at-28-5-CAGR-through-2027.html https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/07/01/225631...
dasKrokodil 5y ago
> Where will they get the cannabis from? they don't have enough lands, import from the US/Canada i bet? ;) "they don't have enough lands"? Are you sure about that? Given that less than 10% of Germans consume cannabis on a regular basis, I don't think you'd need all that much land to supply them all with generous amounts of weed. Also, since weed is going to be quite a profitable crop, I'm pretty sure some farmers will be eager to cease their corn/wheat/whatever production for it.

simonh 5y ago

The purpose of legalisation like this is not to promote drug use, but to ameliorate the negative effects of criminalising drug use. Right now in many countries drugs are easily available almost everywhere, plus we have the grievous negative effects of a damaging war on drugs that we have comprehensively lost from day 1, plus the criminalisation effort obstructs the ability to properly address the health effects of drugs. I believe the most pragmatic approach is to decriminalise but regulate soft drugs like cannabis. This breaks them away completely from the criminal ecosystem. Next keep the trade in hard drugs illegal, but decriminalise use and possession of small amounts that are actually typical of users. This helps address health and welfare issues, plus if users know they will not be prosecuted, it drives a wedge between them and dealers. We’re never going to end the drug trade. It as futile as prohibition. What we can do is implement practical policies to mitigate its worst effects.

usrusr 5y ago

You might be surprised to find that opium wars haven't been fought to gain access to opium.

Shadonototra 5y ago
Why did they spread and market the use of opium? ;)

taxyz23 5y ago

This 1000%. Decriminalization will of course increase use.

piva00 5y ago
Do you have data or a source to support that "of course" statement?
- Shadonototra 5y ago
  It keeps growing https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/legal-marijuana-market https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/legal-ma... https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/07/01/2256319/0/en/Global-cannabis-market-share-to-boost-at-28-5-CAGR-through-2027.html https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/07/01/225631...

dasKrokodil 5y ago

> Where will they get the cannabis from? they don't have enough lands, import from the US/Canada i bet? ;) "they don't have enough lands"? Are you sure about that? Given that less than 10% of Germans consume cannabis on a regular basis, I don't think you'd need all that much land to supply them all with generous amounts of weed. Also, since weed is going to be quite a profitable crop, I'm pretty sure some farmers will be eager to cease their corn/wheat/whatever production for it.