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I actually just got my MBA so I feel extra qualified to answer this statement. When you see something that does not seem belong where it is, you cannot pretend

I actually just got my MBA so I feel extra qualified to answer this statement. When you see something that does not seem belong where it is, you cannot pretend that did not see it. In fact, willful blindness is a thing. There is a reason CYA has become a well known acronym.

trevyn 5y ago
I’m curious, do you see the fundamental vulnerability in this state of affairs?
- A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
  That is an interesting question and I am inclined to answer it, but I don't want to assume the meaning behind it. Could you narrow it down a little to make sure I don't misinterpret it?
  - trevyn 5y ago
    > When you see something that does not seem belong where it is, you cannot pretend that did not see it. 1) How do you decide if something “belongs where it is”? 2) If a large proportion of a society agreed on a decision function and behaved as you suggest, is there a straightforward way an adversary could take advantage of this situation? 3) Bonus: Is there evidence this is happening today?
    - A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
      >> 1) How do you decide if something “belongs where it is”? Experience and training. I just went through somewhat extensive system testing. Without going into specifics, there were several instances of 'expected behavior' vs 'actual behavior'. But this example may be a little too esoteric. Lets say I walk around my house and see a book nested in a tree growing next to the fence. Does the book belong there? I would venture it does not. Reasonable person standard probably could apply here. >> 2) If a large proportion of a society agreed on a decision function and behaved as you suggest, is there a straightforward way an adversary could take advantage of this situation? Yes. And, in a sense, it is already being exploited in most visible way via social media. But I disagree with the phrasing of your question, because I think US society already behaves this way, which is precisely why it is being exploited. >> 3) Bonus: Is there evidence this is happening today? See #2.
lostlogin 5y ago
Good luck getting that mentality ingrained into society.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
  Um.. I don't want to sound dismissive, but that mentality is part of society already ( especially if you consider the surveillance US population happily places where they live ).
trhway 5y ago
No law enforcement != no action ("pretend that did not see it"). Classic strawman. You definitely got your money worth as your post has all the qualities of an MBA type.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
  I am assuming good faith. What part of my statement is a strawman?
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
    No law enforcement != no action ("pretend that did not see it"). Hmm. Despite the edit, I still do not see it as strawman. The important piece and this may be the piece missing from this conversation is 'what action did I take?'. It is not that law enforcement is necessary in all, most, or even some instances. The question is whether you IGNORE something that should not be ignored. Again, it is possible I am not understanding your argument. Please elaborate.

trevyn 5y ago

I’m curious, do you see the fundamental vulnerability in this state of affairs?

A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
That is an interesting question and I am inclined to answer it, but I don't want to assume the meaning behind it. Could you narrow it down a little to make sure I don't misinterpret it?
- trevyn 5y ago
  > When you see something that does not seem belong where it is, you cannot pretend that did not see it. 1) How do you decide if something “belongs where it is”? 2) If a large proportion of a society agreed on a decision function and behaved as you suggest, is there a straightforward way an adversary could take advantage of this situation? 3) Bonus: Is there evidence this is happening today?
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
    >> 1) How do you decide if something “belongs where it is”? Experience and training. I just went through somewhat extensive system testing. Without going into specifics, there were several instances of 'expected behavior' vs 'actual behavior'. But this example may be a little too esoteric. Lets say I walk around my house and see a book nested in a tree growing next to the fence. Does the book belong there? I would venture it does not. Reasonable person standard probably could apply here. >> 2) If a large proportion of a society agreed on a decision function and behaved as you suggest, is there a straightforward way an adversary could take advantage of this situation? Yes. And, in a sense, it is already being exploited in most visible way via social media. But I disagree with the phrasing of your question, because I think US society already behaves this way, which is precisely why it is being exploited. >> 3) Bonus: Is there evidence this is happening today? See #2.

lostlogin 5y ago

Good luck getting that mentality ingrained into society.

A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
Um.. I don't want to sound dismissive, but that mentality is part of society already ( especially if you consider the surveillance US population happily places where they live ).

trhway 5y ago

No law enforcement != no action ("pretend that did not see it"). Classic strawman. You definitely got your money worth as your post has all the qualities of an MBA type.

A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
I am assuming good faith. What part of my statement is a strawman?
- A4ET8a8uTh0 5y ago
  No law enforcement != no action ("pretend that did not see it"). Hmm. Despite the edit, I still do not see it as strawman. The important piece and this may be the piece missing from this conversation is 'what action did I take?'. It is not that law enforcement is necessary in all, most, or even some instances. The question is whether you IGNORE something that should not be ignored. Again, it is possible I am not understanding your argument. Please elaborate.