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Gotta love Kasparov. I think he's wrong about black lives matter. He's right that it's a required movement, but he's wrong that it's about power. In fact it's t

Gotta love Kasparov. I think he's wrong about black lives matter. He's right that it's a required movement, but he's wrong that it's about power. In fact it's the opposite. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2014-10-18%202021-11-18&geo=US&q=black%20lives%20matter https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2014-10-18%202... black lives matter only exists during the election. And what do they have to show for it? Nothing at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_Justice_in_Policing_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_Justice_in_Polici... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_Law_Enforcement_Trust_and_Integrity_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_Law_Enforcement_T... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ending_Qualified_Immunity_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ending_Qualified_Immunity_Act Nothing at all passed. They control the house and never actually passed the legislation. They know they have no power at all. In fact the only person to have done anything for the black community was an exceutive order. https://cops.usdoj.gov/SafePolicingEO https://cops.usdoj.gov/SafePolicingEO Black lives matter organizers know the democrats aren't doing anything for them. This is in the context of a clear humanitarian crisis. They are actively harming their own goals. Why would they do that?

javajosh 5y ago
BLM's problem[1] is that it's a national movement about local problems. It's city cops, not the FBI, that kill people with impunity. The presidential election is generally not the right place to take action, IMHO [2]. In any event, it seems to me that BLM should focus on police money, and ways to put that money in the hands of people who feel that killing unarmed civilians is wrong, the militarization of the police is wrong, and who is willing to peel off some of that money to fund wholly independent police accountability policies, and non-police solutions to community problems (e.g. community intervention, mental health, etc.) [1] I am highly supportive of BLM, but even more so of the implied general movement toward police accountability. Blacks get it more than the rest of us, but everyone is victimized, regularly, to greater or lesser degrees, by a totally unaccountable police force. [2] Except in the unlikely event that one of the candidates is overtly racist, approves of violent behavior, and even pardons military and law enforcement personel convicted of murder and torture. Of course, such a candidate would never be a problem in the USA. We're too good for that.)
- Levitz 5y ago
  >BLM's problem[1] is that it's a national movement about local problems. It's city cops, not the FBI, that kill people with impunity. Which happens because black people are overrepresented when it comes to crime, which happens because they are overrepresented in being poor as dirt. There is racism in the police force in the US, no doubt, but constantly dealing with criminals and seeing a disparity in a race is bound to make people racist. If you were to wave a magic wand and make all racism in the US disappear overnight, new racism would appear in the span of a month because poor people are still poor. This is why I think BLM was headed towards failure from the very start.
  - javajosh 5y ago
    I don't know that much about the internal workings of BLM. But I would think the most effective path forward is to become a viable, powerful political bloc, and then use this power to court local establishment politicians. (Heck, in a better time even the GOP would not be immune to the lure of millions of coherent votes!) This approach won't work because blacks don't vote. Which I frankly don't understand. Even with problematic voter laws, I can't think of a scenario, short of someone pointing a gun in my face, that would stop me from voting. And yet, awhile back in the Abrams race in black turnout in Georgia was like 50%. That is...insanely low, and implies a thick, wide self-destructive streak. It bodes poorly for the community, because if you can't be bothered to help yourself, then what hope do you have of changing your situation?
    - s1artibartfast 5y ago
      The biggest problem with BLM making progress is a lack of solutions they bring to the table. The only consistent proposal is to defund the police, which is very unpopular even within the black community. The majority of the black community sees neighborhood crime as a leading issue and wants to see more cops on the street (just with less discrimination and brutality). Unless BLM can come up with another solution, I don't see them making headway with the black community. That said, other communities may be able to propel BLM agenda into action against the consensus in the black community. Really a bizarre situation overall.
greenail 5y ago
BLM is the Bailey, Biden is the Motte.

javajosh 5y ago

BLM's problem[1] is that it's a national movement about local problems. It's city cops, not the FBI, that kill people with impunity. The presidential election is generally not the right place to take action, IMHO [2]. In any event, it seems to me that BLM should focus on police money, and ways to put that money in the hands of people who feel that killing unarmed civilians is wrong, the militarization of the police is wrong, and who is willing to peel off some of that money to fund wholly independent police accountability policies, and non-police solutions to community problems (e.g. community intervention, mental health, etc.) [1] I am highly supportive of BLM, but even more so of the implied general movement toward police accountability. Blacks get it more than the rest of us, but everyone is victimized, regularly, to greater or lesser degrees, by a totally unaccountable police force. [2] Except in the unlikely event that one of the candidates is overtly racist, approves of violent behavior, and even pardons military and law enforcement personel convicted of murder and torture. Of course, such a candidate would never be a problem in the USA. We're too good for that.)

Levitz 5y ago
>BLM's problem[1] is that it's a national movement about local problems. It's city cops, not the FBI, that kill people with impunity. Which happens because black people are overrepresented when it comes to crime, which happens because they are overrepresented in being poor as dirt. There is racism in the police force in the US, no doubt, but constantly dealing with criminals and seeing a disparity in a race is bound to make people racist. If you were to wave a magic wand and make all racism in the US disappear overnight, new racism would appear in the span of a month because poor people are still poor. This is why I think BLM was headed towards failure from the very start.
- javajosh 5y ago
  I don't know that much about the internal workings of BLM. But I would think the most effective path forward is to become a viable, powerful political bloc, and then use this power to court local establishment politicians. (Heck, in a better time even the GOP would not be immune to the lure of millions of coherent votes!) This approach won't work because blacks don't vote. Which I frankly don't understand. Even with problematic voter laws, I can't think of a scenario, short of someone pointing a gun in my face, that would stop me from voting. And yet, awhile back in the Abrams race in black turnout in Georgia was like 50%. That is...insanely low, and implies a thick, wide self-destructive streak. It bodes poorly for the community, because if you can't be bothered to help yourself, then what hope do you have of changing your situation?
  - s1artibartfast 5y ago
    The biggest problem with BLM making progress is a lack of solutions they bring to the table. The only consistent proposal is to defund the police, which is very unpopular even within the black community. The majority of the black community sees neighborhood crime as a leading issue and wants to see more cops on the street (just with less discrimination and brutality). Unless BLM can come up with another solution, I don't see them making headway with the black community. That said, other communities may be able to propel BLM agenda into action against the consensus in the black community. Really a bizarre situation overall.

greenail 5y ago

BLM is the Bailey, Biden is the Motte.