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Just a side note, but I have to give a thumbs up to this site being the first one I’ve seen since cookie popups shenanigans started that allows me to decline tr

by dahart 5y ago

Just a side note, but I have to give a thumbs up to this site being the first one I’ve seen since cookie popups shenanigans started that allows me to decline tracking cookies and dismiss the popup in a single click.

trevcanhuman 5y ago
Yes. I was amazed by this. No ‘more options’ thingy which has the size weird when in phones, no scrolling to ‘save cookie changes’ etc. This is how companies should treat customers if their business is not harvesting their data.
johnchristopher 5y ago
For what it's worth the two top GDPR consent Wordpress plugins can be configured like that (it's actually their default if memory serves well). It's entirely up to the people authoring the website.
forgotmypw17 5y ago
No cookie popup without JS. Props.
Nextgrid 5y ago
They're just complying with the regulation. Any consent flow that does not allow you to easily decline does not actually comply with the regulation (at which point you can just not bother with a consent flow at all - you're still in breach, but at least you're not destroying the user experience).
- dspillett 5y ago
  > but at least you're not destroying the user experience That is exactly why many do it. The chance of getting fined is low, practically non-existent in most cases, but making the user experience difficult both increases the chance of people just saying “fuck it” and agreeing¹. Those high up the data collection chain also hope that annoying enough people with the bad UX will make them campaign to have the regulations rescinded² in their territory. --- [1] losing people like me who say “fuck it” and move on elsewhere, is seen as a small price to pay [2] even though the regulation isn't at fault, the deliberately bad UX is
po1nter 5y ago
In France, it's the law. Refusing cookies should be as easy as accepting them ( https://www.cnil.fr/fr/refuser-les-cookies-doit-etre-aussi-simple-quaccepter-mise-en-conformite-de-tous-les-organismes https://www.cnil.fr/fr/refuser-les-cookies-doit-etre-aussi-s... )
- ziddoap 5y ago
  And yet, in the majority of cases, the flow is not as easy. Yet nothing is done. Jaywalking is illegal in many places too. It's an enforcement problem, not a legislative one.
dspillett 5y ago
It isn't the case with this site, but I generally mistrust “decline all” buttons without further investigation because on some sites it is only equivalent to unticking “consent” while leaving a pile of “legitimate interest” options enabled.
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by dahart 5y ago

trevcanhuman 5y ago

Yes. I was amazed by this. No ‘more options’ thingy which has the size weird when in phones, no scrolling to ‘save cookie changes’ etc. This is how companies should treat customers if their business is not harvesting their data.

johnchristopher 5y ago

For what it's worth the two top GDPR consent Wordpress plugins can be configured like that (it's actually their default if memory serves well). It's entirely up to the people authoring the website.

forgotmypw17 5y ago

No cookie popup without JS. Props.

Nextgrid 5y ago

They're just complying with the regulation. Any consent flow that does not allow you to easily decline does not actually comply with the regulation (at which point you can just not bother with a consent flow at all - you're still in breach, but at least you're not destroying the user experience).

dspillett 5y ago
> but at least you're not destroying the user experience That is exactly why many do it. The chance of getting fined is low, practically non-existent in most cases, but making the user experience difficult both increases the chance of people just saying “fuck it” and agreeing¹. Those high up the data collection chain also hope that annoying enough people with the bad UX will make them campaign to have the regulations rescinded² in their territory. --- [1] losing people like me who say “fuck it” and move on elsewhere, is seen as a small price to pay [2] even though the regulation isn't at fault, the deliberately bad UX is

po1nter 5y ago

In France, it's the law. Refusing cookies should be as easy as accepting them ( https://www.cnil.fr/fr/refuser-les-cookies-doit-etre-aussi-simple-quaccepter-mise-en-conformite-de-tous-les-organismes https://www.cnil.fr/fr/refuser-les-cookies-doit-etre-aussi-s... )

ziddoap 5y ago
And yet, in the majority of cases, the flow is not as easy. Yet nothing is done. Jaywalking is illegal in many places too. It's an enforcement problem, not a legislative one.

dspillett 5y ago

It isn't the case with this site, but I generally mistrust “decline all” buttons without further investigation because on some sites it is only equivalent to unticking “consent” while leaving a pile of “legitimate interest” options enabled.

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