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That's a pretty interesting and thought provoking point. Well said!

ttfkam 5y ago
Lol! "Flagged" Not because it was off topic since I was responding to a point Snowden made. Not because it was threatening anyone or even name-calling. Not because it was inciting violence. On a site that touts championing free speech as a paramount ideal, a topic about freedom of thought, and an open disdain for "groupthink", my comment was flagged. I swear, this orange site has absolutely no sense of irony.
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- dang 5y ago
  Your comment broke several of the site guidelines, so it was correctly flagged by users. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html I'm not sure where you got "a site that touts $foo, $bar, $baz" etc. None of those things are "touted" by HN. People make up such generalizations, of course, but they seem mostly to be a product of the passions of the perceiver. Those with opposite passions arrive at just the opposite generalizations.
  - ttfkam 5y ago
    The prohibition against ideology or political statements is profoundly problematic when Snowden's blog post is itself arguably ideological and political. That would make any on-topic comments on it fall afoul of the rules, would it not?
    - dang 5y ago
      There's no such prohibition. The rules ask you not to fulminate, call names, or do flamewar or political battle. If you want to explore political topics in the intended spirit of the site—intellectual curiosity—that's different. People do that all the time here. That may sound like a hard line to draw, but in practice it's not as hard as it sounds, because accounts tend to fall into a bimodal distribution: ones that want to smite enemies, and ones that want to explore curiously. This site is for the latter, not the former. It's not possible to have both, for the same reason you can't have a tank battle in a city park: the one destroys the other. If you want more explanation about how we draw this line on HN, there's a lot of it at these past links: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

Lol! "Flagged" Not because it was off topic since I was responding to a point Snowden made. Not because it was threatening anyone or even name-calling. Not because it was inciting violence. On a site that touts championing free speech as a paramount ideal, a topic about freedom of thought, and an open disdain for "groupthink", my comment was flagged. I swear, this orange site has absolutely no sense of irony.

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dang 5y ago
Your comment broke several of the site guidelines, so it was correctly flagged by users. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html I'm not sure where you got "a site that touts $foo, $bar, $baz" etc. None of those things are "touted" by HN. People make up such generalizations, of course, but they seem mostly to be a product of the passions of the perceiver. Those with opposite passions arrive at just the opposite generalizations.
- ttfkam 5y ago
  The prohibition against ideology or political statements is profoundly problematic when Snowden's blog post is itself arguably ideological and political. That would make any on-topic comments on it fall afoul of the rules, would it not?
  - dang 5y ago
    There's no such prohibition. The rules ask you not to fulminate, call names, or do flamewar or political battle. If you want to explore political topics in the intended spirit of the site—intellectual curiosity—that's different. People do that all the time here. That may sound like a hard line to draw, but in practice it's not as hard as it sounds, because accounts tend to fall into a bimodal distribution: ones that want to smite enemies, and ones that want to explore curiously. This site is for the latter, not the former. It's not possible to have both, for the same reason you can't have a tank battle in a city park: the one destroys the other. If you want more explanation about how we draw this line on HN, there's a lot of it at these past links: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21607844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22902490 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...