> I can't think of a single in-use tech/language that does not have a lot of complexities. And by definition, these will almost certainly be 'hidden complexitie

> I can't think of a single in-use tech/language that does not have a lot of complexities. And by definition, these will almost certainly be 'hidden complexities' for someone coming in to that ecosystem. You're 100% right. My original comment focuses on PHP because I was specifically addressing the "PHP is the easiest to develop in" idea. I realise that it might seem a bit too critical maybe because PHP was the only topic in it, but I didn't mean it to come off like that. Hopefully I redeemed PHP a little bit in the follow-up comment! :D At the end of the day: every ecosystem/language has its own "that shadowy place over there" :P