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There is also a non-zero chance of getting hit by a bus if you leave your house. Might as well not go outside. Forgive the joke, but this feels like a glass-ha

There is also a non-zero chance of getting hit by a bus if you leave your house. Might as well not go outside. Forgive the joke, but this feels like a glass-half-empty take on something we're not fully understanding. I think we should look at numbers before determining whether or not the vaccine is a good strategy. Life involves risks.

glenneroo 5y ago
Perhaps I should have linked to this as my source: https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-coronavirus-infographic-datapack/ https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-c... Granted the data about vaccines efficacy was last updated end of July 2021, yet according to those numbers, I'm fairly sure the chances of getting hit by a bus are considerably lower. Also you can more easily avoid getting hit by a bus by looking both ways before your cross the street (freak bus accidents aside), whereas avoiding an invisible virus is slightly more difficult.
- resonious 5y ago
  Thanks for the link. Getting hit by a bus is a bad example for sure. I just wanted to paint a picture about there being risks in life. According to "usafacts.org" [1] there's a (very) roughly 1.6% rate of death, not controlling for age. The informationisbeautiful data shows that I'm >90% protected from extreme cases with 2 doses. That feels pretty safe to me given how low the rate of an extreme case is to begin with. (I'll admit I only measured death though) You're right, though, it's not invincibility. That's a pretty high bar for anything. [1] https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spread-map/ https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spr...
BoxOfRain 5y ago
I think if the average human being applied the precautionary principle to everything in their life as deeply as politicians have applied it during the pandemic, their life would be utterly miserable.

glenneroo 5y ago

Perhaps I should have linked to this as my source: https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-coronavirus-infographic-datapack/ https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-c... Granted the data about vaccines efficacy was last updated end of July 2021, yet according to those numbers, I'm fairly sure the chances of getting hit by a bus are considerably lower. Also you can more easily avoid getting hit by a bus by looking both ways before your cross the street (freak bus accidents aside), whereas avoiding an invisible virus is slightly more difficult.

resonious 5y ago
Thanks for the link. Getting hit by a bus is a bad example for sure. I just wanted to paint a picture about there being risks in life. According to "usafacts.org" [1] there's a (very) roughly 1.6% rate of death, not controlling for age. The informationisbeautiful data shows that I'm >90% protected from extreme cases with 2 doses. That feels pretty safe to me given how low the rate of an extreme case is to begin with. (I'll admit I only measured death though) You're right, though, it's not invincibility. That's a pretty high bar for anything. [1] https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spread-map/ https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spr...

BoxOfRain 5y ago

I think if the average human being applied the precautionary principle to everything in their life as deeply as politicians have applied it during the pandemic, their life would be utterly miserable.