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I doubt he's interested in this kind of stuff at all. Myself I wanted to stay, but he kinda "closed" freenode - you need to register using a web form and acces

by vadfa 5y ago

I doubt he's interested in this kind of stuff at all. Myself I wanted to stay, but he kinda "closed" freenode - you need to register using a web form and access using SASL. Since he dropped the old nick database, you can't use your old nick anymore. I doubt there are many people online there at this point.

GekkePrutser 5y ago
I was sad at the commotion in the community but at least he did it with so much passion that everyone left for Libera and the community wasn't split at all :) A few projects remained at first but when he wiped the database and they lost their op rights to random people (whoever happened to join back first) the last ones moved over. So now Libera is what Freenode used to be, nothing more nothing less, only with more well-defined management that learned their lessons about vetting contracts. They're doing a great job at continuing the Freenode spirit and everything is settled back to normal. Pretty much the best outcome possible from all this IMO. Ps the sign up form is so un-irc. The great thing about IRC is that you don't need any identity.
- account42 5y ago
  > everyone left for Libera and the community wasn't split at all Sadly Libera.Chat is only at about half the size [0] that Freenode was. Sure, a lot of those lost will not have been active participants anymore (just keeping their bouncer/client running) but all of them? [0] https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php
  - vadfa 5y ago
    You severely understimate the amount of idling going on on IRC.
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    Yeah I have a strong feeling a lot of those are just bouncers that are running on some old VPS, totally forgotten. I also think this would have triggered people to think "do I actually still want to be on IRC"? Rather than just idling for years. However I didn't know it was still only half the size. That is much worse than I expected. I know some of them have moved to other networks, for example the alpine linux team went to OFTC. So part of it is explained by that. Still a split of the community but OFTC is a very similar type of community.
- jcranmer 5y ago
  > everyone left for Libera and the community wasn't split at all Judging from the statistics, it looks like a significant fraction decamped to OFTC (~10-15k) instead of Libera (~50k).
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    True, I forgot about that. Like alpine. Probably because I was always both on Freenode and OFTC so I didn't consider them 'lost'. But this is a personal thing, good point.

by vadfa 5y ago

GekkePrutser 5y ago

I was sad at the commotion in the community but at least he did it with so much passion that everyone left for Libera and the community wasn't split at all :) A few projects remained at first but when he wiped the database and they lost their op rights to random people (whoever happened to join back first) the last ones moved over. So now Libera is what Freenode used to be, nothing more nothing less, only with more well-defined management that learned their lessons about vetting contracts. They're doing a great job at continuing the Freenode spirit and everything is settled back to normal. Pretty much the best outcome possible from all this IMO. Ps the sign up form is so un-irc. The great thing about IRC is that you don't need any identity.

account42 5y ago
> everyone left for Libera and the community wasn't split at all Sadly Libera.Chat is only at about half the size [0] that Freenode was. Sure, a lot of those lost will not have been active participants anymore (just keeping their bouncer/client running) but all of them? [0] https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php
- vadfa 5y ago
  You severely understimate the amount of idling going on on IRC.
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  Yeah I have a strong feeling a lot of those are just bouncers that are running on some old VPS, totally forgotten. I also think this would have triggered people to think "do I actually still want to be on IRC"? Rather than just idling for years. However I didn't know it was still only half the size. That is much worse than I expected. I know some of them have moved to other networks, for example the alpine linux team went to OFTC. So part of it is explained by that. Still a split of the community but OFTC is a very similar type of community.
jcranmer 5y ago
> everyone left for Libera and the community wasn't split at all Judging from the statistics, it looks like a significant fraction decamped to OFTC (~10-15k) instead of Libera (~50k).
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  True, I forgot about that. Like alpine. Probably because I was always both on Freenode and OFTC so I didn't consider them 'lost'. But this is a personal thing, good point.