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The Settings have several checkboxes to switch of (or on): * Tips and News from Mozilla and Firefox * Recommendations while surfing * Recommend addons while s

by berkes 5y ago

The Settings have several checkboxes to switch of (or on): * Tips and News from Mozilla and Firefox * Recommendations while surfing * Recommend addons while surfing I'm not entirely sure what you saw that made you angry, but I'm pretty sure you can switch them off rather than abandon the entire browser. That goes for a lot of Firefox hate, I find: quite often people are ranting online about some new or removed feature, which they can dis- or enable easily in the settings. Or -a tad harder- in about:config. Or even a tad harder, with an addon. That makes me think those ranters don't really want their problem solved, but just want to vent some anger about X changing something that they are emotionally not ready to see changed.

egberts1 5y ago
Firefox for iOS has NO about:config feature and a paltry amount of settings under Settings submenu.
- zinekeller 5y ago
  Weirdest criticism I've heard. Either someone know it's all Safari in a skin (due to Apple's restriction), or someone didn't heard of this limitation.
  - tzs 5y ago
    How much does all iOS browsers being built on top of Safari actually limit what one can do? Obviously the actual page rendering and JavaScript executing would be Safari. But 99% of the time when I hear people advocating for browser X over browser Y it is not because X has better rendering or a better JS engine. It is because of higher level things, like containers (Firefox over Chrome) or better profile handling (Chrome over Firefox) or better spell checking (everything over Firefox). Does having to build on top of Safari on iOS also constrain those higher level things?
    - zinekeller 5y ago
      > Does having to build on top of Safari on iOS also constrain those higher level things? Yes! > containers (Firefox over Chrome) No, they can't install add-ons (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-ons-firefox-ios https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-ons-firefox-ios). Even if they could built this into the browser, they can't (see how the profiles are handled). > better profile handling (Chrome over Firefox) No, Chrome does not support this feature on iOS (https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/2364824?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DiOS https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/2364824?hl=en&co=GE...). iOS' WebKit limits this to only one permanent profile and one ephemeral profile. You can technically have multiple profiles in the iPad - that is, if you're a school, and that's really more of a OS-wide user account thing. (G did a hack over this by rewriting that profile when switching profiles - but it's not truly a multitask thing, and violates Apple Developer Guidelines). > better spell checking (everything over Firefox) No, and for more sensible reasons. Users do expect consistent spell checking because they use the keyboard to do that. Regardless, if you want to implement spell checking in-browser, that's impossible. If you want to do it outside of Safari, go ahead - it's just not integrated to those Apple things (more of a dedicated Grammarly interface rather than desktop spell checking).
Semaphor 5y ago
> Tips and News from Mozilla and Firefox Was switched off. All the others (according to the linked information) are irrelevant for intrusive pop-up ads. By all means, please explain to me which of those settings do something different from what they are supposed to do, or tell me about an about:config settings that tells Firefox to never show me pop-up ads. What made me angry: https://i.imgur.com/s9hC23U.png https://i.imgur.com/s9hC23U.png which blocks the interaction with any part of Firefox until I click "Not Now"
- berkes 5y ago
  Sounds like a bug then. Is there a bug-report for this?
- eyeundersand 5y ago
  Is this not a one-time thing that's shown after every update? Or is it recurring?
  - pitay 5y ago
    It was one time for me. Although I do think what they advertised there and the way they advertised it was nonsensical and disrespectful to the user.

by berkes 5y ago

egberts1 5y ago

Firefox for iOS has NO about:config feature and a paltry amount of settings under Settings submenu.

zinekeller 5y ago
Weirdest criticism I've heard. Either someone know it's all Safari in a skin (due to Apple's restriction), or someone didn't heard of this limitation.
- tzs 5y ago
  How much does all iOS browsers being built on top of Safari actually limit what one can do? Obviously the actual page rendering and JavaScript executing would be Safari. But 99% of the time when I hear people advocating for browser X over browser Y it is not because X has better rendering or a better JS engine. It is because of higher level things, like containers (Firefox over Chrome) or better profile handling (Chrome over Firefox) or better spell checking (everything over Firefox). Does having to build on top of Safari on iOS also constrain those higher level things?
  - zinekeller 5y ago
    > Does having to build on top of Safari on iOS also constrain those higher level things? Yes! > containers (Firefox over Chrome) No, they can't install add-ons (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-ons-firefox-ios https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-ons-firefox-ios). Even if they could built this into the browser, they can't (see how the profiles are handled). > better profile handling (Chrome over Firefox) No, Chrome does not support this feature on iOS (https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/2364824?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DiOS https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/2364824?hl=en&co=GE...). iOS' WebKit limits this to only one permanent profile and one ephemeral profile. You can technically have multiple profiles in the iPad - that is, if you're a school, and that's really more of a OS-wide user account thing. (G did a hack over this by rewriting that profile when switching profiles - but it's not truly a multitask thing, and violates Apple Developer Guidelines). > better spell checking (everything over Firefox) No, and for more sensible reasons. Users do expect consistent spell checking because they use the keyboard to do that. Regardless, if you want to implement spell checking in-browser, that's impossible. If you want to do it outside of Safari, go ahead - it's just not integrated to those Apple things (more of a dedicated Grammarly interface rather than desktop spell checking).

Semaphor 5y ago

> Tips and News from Mozilla and Firefox Was switched off. All the others (according to the linked information) are irrelevant for intrusive pop-up ads. By all means, please explain to me which of those settings do something different from what they are supposed to do, or tell me about an about:config settings that tells Firefox to never show me pop-up ads. What made me angry: https://i.imgur.com/s9hC23U.png https://i.imgur.com/s9hC23U.png which blocks the interaction with any part of Firefox until I click "Not Now"

berkes 5y ago
Sounds like a bug then. Is there a bug-report for this?
eyeundersand 5y ago
Is this not a one-time thing that's shown after every update? Or is it recurring?
- pitay 5y ago
  It was one time for me. Although I do think what they advertised there and the way they advertised it was nonsensical and disrespectful to the user.